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5800x3d vs 12900k tuned gaming benchmarks

Troezar said:
I better not point out my 32GB of 8 Pack B-die C14 RAM then :cry: Looks like massive overkill with the 5800X3D ;)
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Yeah that's the ram I would like. Still bugs me that I only have SR ram. A lot of scores would be nicely imporoved esp the min fps with DR instead of SR. Running these timings wouldn't be an issue either since frequency itself is so low.

Dual rank bdie is pretty OP.
 
^ Thanks - gave ACC a run this morning.

RAM@3200-14-14-14-14-26 | SMT Off | Resizable BAR On

Avg: 134.8
1% : 108.5
.2%: 102.7

Nice to somewhat confirm for myself what an uplift the 5800X3D provides in this title. If they carry across to VR too then wowzer :D
 
Assassins Creed: Odyssey. New addition since it's out on game pass and has a built in bench. 1080p Low preset:

5800X3D (smt off): Rest of the tune is in OP
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12900k (HT and ecores off) 8c8t 5.4, 7000c30

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Why test on low? If this were pure esports titles I'd understand but in AAA single-player experiences it doesn't make sense and won't be representative of either CPU demands or CPU performance.
 
Poneros said:
Why test on low? If this were pure esports titles I'd understand but in AAA single-player experiences it doesn't make sense and won't be representative of either CPU demands or CPU performance.
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If you are benching CPU vs CPU then it matters.

Dumbo's on OCN would make a rule of 1080P ULTRA on SOFTR yet people with anything lesser than a 2070 were GPU bound... and they did not lax the rules.
 
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Tired9 said:
If you are benching CPU vs CPU then it matters.

Dumbo's on OCN would make a rule of 1080P ULTRA on SOFTR yet people with anything lesser than a 2070 were GPU bound... and they did not lax the rules.
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There is a trend these days for tech journalist to benchmark CPU performance in games in a similar way to how they benchmark GPU performance, they quite often test only up to the limits of the GPU and then at least imply that is the performance of the CPU, it isn't, its the performance of the GPU, the CPU has little to do with it.
 
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Robert896r1 said:
Assassins Creed: Odyssey. New addition since it's out on game pass and has a built in bench. 1080p Low preset:
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5800X3D is smashing outta the park there, lower score but almost 1 GHz less CPU speed and RAM at around 50% of the LGA1700 part as well. Crazy what a bit of cache can offer, and that frame time consistency on the X3D is way better, with two weird low spikes vs one on the LGA1700.
 
humbug said:
There is a trend these days for tech journalist to benchmark CPU performance in games in a similar way to how they benchmark GPU performance, they quite often test only up to the limits of the GPU and then at least imply that is the performance of the CPU, it isn't, its the performance of the GPU, the CPU has little to do with it.
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It's how everything is "Inclusivity" Even though it clearly stops some people taking part as I mentioned before.
"Love both companies"

Or if one does well, hate them! and create weird logic.

It was the FX users telling everyone that using low settings and low res was flawed, of course it was, you duped yourself now want to dupe the entire world you crazy .... word I can't use.
 
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Journey said:
5800X3D is smashing outta the park there, lower score but almost 1 GHz less CPU speed and RAM at around 50% of the LGA1700 part as well. Crazy what a bit of cache can offer, and that frame time consistency on the X3D is way better, with two weird low spikes vs one on the LGA1700.
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Frame time consistency is better on the 12900k. Look at the smoothness of the CPU and GPU graphs.

The top graph is deceptive as it's range is based on min/med/avg so the 12900k looks 'worse' because it's using a smaller range for the data. The smoothness you're seeing is range compression.
 
Robert896r1 said:
Frame time consistency is better on the 12900k. Look at the smoothness of the CPU and GPU graphs.

The top graph is deceptive as it's range is based on min/med/avg so the 12900k looks 'worse' because it's using a smaller range for the data. The smoothness you're seeing is range compression.
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GPU range in ms is 5ms to 5ms on the X3D, and 4-5ms on the 12900K, I would assume that is smoother.
 
these benchmarks are always hard to be fair or not biased. it depends on the game and settings. for eg cyber punk do a 1080 benchmark on ultra a 12700k is faster than the amd cpu at 1080. its all about what is chosen for the bench.
 
~>Dg<~ said:
these benchmarks are always hard to be fair or not biased. it depends on the game and settings. for eg cyber punk do a 1080 benchmark on ultra a 12700k is faster than the amd cpu at 1080. its all about what is chosen for the bench.
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If when doing these benchmarks you're thinking about what's fair you're doing it wrong, raw facts have no bias, they are simply the result, bias only comes in to it when you manipulate those results, and calling a GPU limited result a "CPU benchmark" is a manipulation of the result.
 
how do you choose what setting to use to show without bias ?

as said take cyber punk as a eg. by adjusting settings or resolution a 12700k can be faster than the amd cpu. but thats the point do you use ultra medium low it will make different results of the outcome.
 
That's the end of this series of benches. Will come back prob around Xmas with tuned RPL vs Zen4. Both on DDR5 and maxed out for gaming as in the OP.

Main reason for the delay is letting both ecosystems mature in terms of bios and learning any unique aspects to either platform so we do them justice.
 
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