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Gerard said:
Considering it. :) was thinking of a second hand 4870x2 or a 295, 295 seems to pull a sizable lead over the x2 though in most reviews.
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Depends on what sites you read really. Most of the trusted ones show that while it does have a lead, the lead it has is not worth any more money.

You're talking single digit percentage, generally below 5 too.
 
kylew said:
Depends on what sites you read really. Most of the trusted ones show that while it does have a lead, the lead it has is not worth any more money.

You're talking single digit percentage, generally below 5 too.
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Hardocp stated theyre pretty much equal and thats generally the site i trust, a lot of others seem to be getting situations where the gtx is like 25-30+ fps faster which really makes no sense. I had a 4870x2 when they came out but sold it on a couple of months later, didn't really see that much of an improvement over my 3870x2 in the games i played then, mostly came through in canned benchmarks, even crysis didn't show much of a bump.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17907686&highlight=username_gerard

Thats when i just got it, looking back the performance bump was pretty good...in benchmarks at least. Just didn't feel like it was doing what the benchmarks said it was in real gameplay. Thats why id like to try a gtx, though it means tacking quite a bit onto what a second hand x2 would cost. :eek:
 
tbh the would have known about this amd/ati when they released them early... Nvidia has done it before as well as ati..

they release a product with only a hand full of working units to build hype about it.... (people want what they cant have)

I honestly dont think there will be enough around till fermi hits
 
6800GTX/7800GTX/8800GTX/GTX280 launches were all exceptional compared to this.

I think AMD just wanted to rush something out so they can play the DX11 card, regardless of the fact that stock/yields were catastrophically bad.
 
It wouldn't make any difference if AMD had waited, TSMC are No Swearing! Kand there's no getting around that right now. AMD can either a) sell what they can or b) wait to build up stock to please the whinging enthusiasts for a couple of weeks then go back to drips and drabs with supply unable to meet demand.

Just think about how bad the yields will be for the massive Fermi die, it's gonna be a battle of paper products, spectral Evergreens vs phantasmal Fermis. :p

I'm surprised nobody has sued TSMC over this.
 
tmaxxthomson said:
globalfoundaries soon. dont amd/ati own globalfoundaries anyways? makes me wonder why they are not already using them? :S
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I think they do own them, rumour has it they're going to try 32nm too? It's supposed to be better or something...

I'd rather them go to 65nm if it means better yields...
 
Martini1991 said:
I think they do own them, rumour has it they're going to try 32nm too? It's supposed to be better or something...

I'd rather them go to 65nm if it means better yields...
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I don't think the yields would be very good on a 2 billion transistor chip on a 65nm production node (hint: it'd be approximately 700mm^2).
 
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