5960X and Dominator Platinums

Kaapstad · 14 Oct 2014 at 12:57

I am thinking about building a 5960X/RVE based PC

Could you tell me what the average 5960X is capable of when overclocked on water please. Also if I went for LD Phase change would that involve a lot of work with insulation around the mobo.

Also would these be the best option for overclocking and high physics scores on the futuremark benches.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-411-CS&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=2557

Do they also have much room for tuning as well.

Thanks.

Silent_Scone · 14 Oct 2014 at 14:16

Average 4.4 to 4.5 good to very good 4.6 to 4.8

1.2v 4.2 average

1.3v 4.5 average

Be careful when looking at SS units as the 5960 can pull in 400w quite easily, which you'll want as to make it worth while you'll still be using up to 1.45v on a good chip at least.

I don't rate the DDR4 Dom Plats but that might just be my kit. Stick with Corsair though, the LPX kits do well.

Captain · 14 Oct 2014 at 15:15

I had the Dom plats but changed before using them to this set here.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-408-CS&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=2557

Running @ 3400Mhz atm, haven't tried pushing them any further.

Kaapstad · 14 Oct 2014 at 18:31

Thanks for the replies

I am looking to start building around xmas time so I have a little time yet.

The most like cooling solution I will use is water with external rads as the other thing I need to get in the case is dual PSUs and with the LD cases I think that would be a bit difficult. I just hate having to use a case like the 900D to do it as I find the one I have got a bit flimsy.

Silent_Scone · 14 Oct 2014 at 21:04

Mines definitely not flimsy but there is a lot I don't like about the 900D. Then again yours is practically empty

Kaapstad · 14 Oct 2014 at 23:44

Silent_Scone said:
Mines definitely not flimsy but there is a lot I don't like about the 900D. Then again yours is practically empty

What I don't like about mine is all the push on bits of plastic and lose magnetic filters and that sort of thing. Having said that if I want to use two PSUs I may have to get another 900D.

Captain · 19 Oct 2014 at 20:47

Get yourself an enthoo Primo, supports 2 PSU's, i have one

Kaapstad · 20 Oct 2014 at 07:23

Clov!s said:
Get yourself an enthoo Primo, supports 2 PSU's, i have one

Unfortunate I have just received a 900D.

I have just had a look at the Enthoo Prime, it is a lovely case and would have been perfect for me. Next time I do a build I may give one a go.

Nickolp1974 · 20 Oct 2014 at 08:36

At the moment Kaap with ram its seems its the luck of the draw, OC ability is all over the place, my 2666 gskills which i paid £230 for will go upto 3200, but generally 2666 tightens better for me and 90% of the time gives the best results, there running at 12-12-13-15-1T-270.
Better kits are on the way, so my advice is if your buying now get a cheaper set and you could get lucky or wait a little for the "gauranteed-ish" ones, imo there is no point spending more than £250 on DDR4 at this current time.

Kaapstad · 20 Oct 2014 at 14:42

Nickolp1974 said:
At the moment Kaap with ram its seems its the luck of the draw, OC ability is all over the place, my 2666 gskills which i paid £230 for will go upto 3200, but generally 2666 tightens better for me and 90% of the time gives the best results, there running at 12-12-13-15-1T-270.
Better kits are on the way, so my advice is if your buying now get a cheaper set and you could get lucky or wait a little for the "gauranteed-ish" ones, imo there is no point spending more than £250 on DDR4 at this current time.

I have gone for the 3000mhz Corsair Dominators to start with but I expect to be upgrading in the future when something better arrives.

I am also seeing very strange things with X99 performance, there does not seem to be a huge difference in RAM performance whatever is in use.

The other strange thing is the X99 hexcores seem to perform better (after taking into account the number of cores) than the 5960X with the RAM.

Nickolp1974 · 20 Oct 2014 at 15:05

If you have not already seen it shammys guide here http://downloads.hwbot.org/downloads/PDF/X99/R5EOCGuide.pdf its a good read.

No not much difference tbh as always as you know you tend to sacrifice one timing for another as the frequency increases.
I can get massive increases in read speeds at 3000Mhz+ But writes drop.
What i do like with DDR4 and x99 is that there seems to be more options available depending on the benchmark, some score better at 2400 and others 3200, its nice to have that range but, again as you know theres always a sweetspot for your IMC which does take time and i'm sure you will see many bd and 6f Q codes!!
The options available for memory tweaking on the R5E is colossal!

Kaapstad · 20 Oct 2014 at 15:23

Nickolp1974 said:
The options available for memory tweaking on the R5E is colossal!

I have got one of those sat in a box somewhere too.

Dicehunter · 21 Oct 2014 at 13:22

Kaapstad said:
I have gone for the 3000mhz Corsair Dominators to start with but I expect to be upgrading in the future when something better arrives.

I am also seeing very strange things with X99 performance, there does not seem to be a huge difference in RAM performance whatever is in use.

The other strange thing is the X99 hexcores seem to perform better (after taking into account the number of cores) than the 5960X with the RAM.

Kaapstad said:
I have got one of those sat in a box somewhere too.

And you say you're not rich

*jk*

Do a build log, Will be interesting to see

Kaapstad · 21 Oct 2014 at 15:58

Dicehunter said:
And you say you're not rich *jk*

Do a build log, Will be interesting to see

There is a build log Called T-REX in that section of the forums. Unfortunately I have not got very far as the 900D case that turned up was faulty and is now waiting to be RMAed.

If I post pics over on OC3D I think TTL will have a fit as it is going to be not very pretty, function comes first.

Dicehunter · 21 Oct 2014 at 16:03

Kaapstad said:
There is a build log Called T-REX in that section of the forums. Unfortunately I have not got very far as the 900D case that turned up was faulty and is now waiting to be RMAed.

If I post pics over on OC3D I think TTL will have a fit as it is going to be not very pretty, function comes first.

I'll wait for the build log here

Don't bother with oc3d anymore.

Pulse88 · 24 Oct 2014 at 13:23

@ Kaapstad
have ordered Ld phase change that are tuned to 335-340watt heat load@-30. only thing you nead to do is order from Ld site and ask them to tune it for higher heatload.

should be good for 5960x.
chip draw less power when cold

8 Pack · 28 Oct 2014 at 16:19

Phase Change no need. Thats not enough heat capacity for X chip or even K chip to be honest.

Your correct IMC does seem to be better / more efficient on K chips over the X SKU.

Silent_Scone · 29 Oct 2014 at 08:26

They do scale with cold though

Kaap you should be able to do some variety of 3200 with those on 100 strap easily. I've flashed to new bios with updated microcode and this is achievable under 1.4v. (Dom Plat 2800)

HCI stress tested at T2 however for 24/7 stability.

Kaapstad · 30 Oct 2014 at 08:57

8 Pack said:
Phase Change no need. Thats not enough heat capacity for X chip or even K chip to be honest.

Your correct IMC does seem to be better / more efficient on K chips over the X SKU.

In the end I have gone for water cooling/chiller but I will be using a LD V8 case but no phase change.

Silent_Scone said:
They do scale with cold though

Kaap you should be able to do some variety of 3200 with those on 100 strap easily. I've flashed to new bios with updated microcode and this is achievable under 1.4v. (Dom Plat 2800)

HCI stress tested at T2 however for 24/7 stability.

In the end I went for the Corsair Dominator 3000mhz kit as they are Cas 15 out of the box and will upgrade to something better in 6 months or so when available.

That is good performance you are getting on Cinebench, it makes my 4930k look very slow.