5Dii (for real this time)

Raymond Lin said:
Thats why it has a limit - 29mins59 secs or 4G, which ever that comes first. Which in real life it does around 12 mins as 4G usually comes first before 30 mins.
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read it on a few websites that its because the maximum size using fat32 filesystem is 4gb


the sensor will probably still get warm but I would guess its doesnt get hot enough to affect things too much, theres nothing to stop someone shoving a 32mb card in and taking 8 x 12 minute clips consecutively :p

besides using bulb mode for a 6 hr nightshot would heat the sensor a lot more no?
 
Michael Mann spent millions on Collateral in camera equipment and similar technologies. The video quality has that sort of look to it, and for less that £2000. Fantastic.
 
Fstop11 said:
what were you wishing for?

The 5D has only ever been a camera dedicated to image quality at high res. This was never going to be anything different.

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I don't understand either, the 5D MkII spec is spot on imo. Its everything the original 5D was about, with vastly improved IQ. All the people asking for a 5D with 8fps and 50 af points don't understand what the concept of the 5D was about..
 
there will be a 3D anyway for people wanting fast fps, full frame goodness.

i think there is an easy explanation for much of the disappointment. A lot of people (myself included) were not looking for a spiritual successor to the 5D, but were wanting Canon to provide a direct competitor to the Nikon D700, compact body, full frame sensor, great noise, fast AF and fast FPS.

I'm very confident there is a large market for a Canon body like this, the 1D III is too big, too professional and still has a cropped sensor. The 50D has the frame rate and compact body but no full frame.

PMA '09, 16mp, 6-8fps, FF 3D/7D :)
 
olv said:
there will be a 3D anyway for people wanting fast fps, full frame goodness.

i think there is an easy explanation for much of the disappointment. A lot of people (myself included) were not looking for a spiritual successor to the 5D, but were wanting Canon to provide a direct competitor to the Nikon D700, compact body, full frame sensor, great noise, fast AF and fast FPS.

I'm very confident there is a large market for a Canon body like this, the 1D III is too big, too professional and still has a cropped sensor. The 50D has the frame rate and compact body but no full frame.

PMA '09, 16mp, 6-8fps, FF 3D/7D :)
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I do understand the D700 argument, my friend has one and its very very nice indeed, not quite as good as the D3 but its not exactly bad to be second to such a body for £1000 cheaper, my friend decided on saving the £1k and putting it towards a brand new £5k 400mm F2.8 Nikon, which is also georgeous.

On the other hand, whilst the D700 offers 12MP, 8fps and full frame. I still struggle to see why somebody would want full frame and 8fps.. Anybody who REALLY wants full frame, will most likley be interested in Landscape/Portrait work. Anyone who wants a fast framerate would most likley be concerned with action/sports.

I think it really demands 2 totally different cameras, I think the 5D MkII for the Landscape/portrait, (nice big files, stacks of detail) and the D50 for the action/sports, or if you need really good AF to drive a big lens, the 1D M3 for sports
. (although the 1D M3 is 10MP, the IQ at under ISO 800 is currently one of the best around)

I don't believe that many photographers who were planning to "dabble" in many different types of photography would be up for spending D700/5D cash anyway, most of them would stick to D300/40D/50D territory, if they weren't specialising.
Its most likley that somebody planning to drop £2k on a body and associated lenses, already has a fair idea of their work and what they do, and what they want whether its fps or IQ, and if you're a Canon shooter, you have plenty of choice depending on what you do.

With Nikon they have 2 pretty much identical cameras, a D3 which is cracking and a D700 which is pretty much the same, apart from none pro build, and not as good noise processing and a few other things.... But they don't bring anything different to the photographer other than dragging a few bits off the flagship camera into a cheaper camera for a cheaper price.

Canon in my opinion have put themselves in a good position because theres plenty of choice, from full frame 20+MP to fast fps crop bodies.
 
olv said:
there will be a 3D anyway for people wanting fast fps, full frame goodness.

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PMA '09, 16mp, 6-8fps, FF 3D/7D :)
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I'm not convinced... PMA 09, 1Ds mk IV up to 30-40mp, with all the missing bits from 5Dmk2 and 50D (live view, movie mode, self cleaning sensors etc May be a little faster but not more than 5-6fps).

One day Canon will merge 1Ds, 1D ranges, possibly with the option of a higher speed crop mode, though not yet I think.

I honestly don't think a proposed 3/7D makes much sense any more, it sounds too much like a 1D range competitor to me. Still time will tell.
 
I never understand why FPS comes into this disccusion every time.. I don't know about you, but the studio lights I use can't cycle fast enough to shoot even 2 frames per second, let alone 3.5.

The D700 has 12.8MP correct? And this 5DMK2 has what, 21mp? The D700 just got thrown out of the studio door faster than Usain Bolt on speed. This is a perfect locational fashion snapper for those with a little more money and will be brilliant at both if you're on more of a budget. As long as the *quality* is higher than the D700, it'l be brilliant :)

They need to release a camera in the 5D body with the lower MP and faster specs to compete with the D700. They shouldn't change the 5DMK2 at all. This is just right up the street for those with a 5D not wanting to splash on a 1DSMK3 or Digital Medium Format. Portable quality
 
I cant see how canon can introduce another body as I think they would destroy sales of there 1D models if they try n pitch a camera between the 5D and 1D
The only thing is to bring a 1D which is the best of both worlds with crop modes for high FPS and Full frame modes for high IQ. I dont think they will do this so I cant see the line up changing much.
 
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