£600 Gaming Build

grudas · 3 Oct 2010 at 21:11

Hey! a mate of mine is thinking of building a pc.. now i haven't been following all the "scene" for quite some time.. so yeah i need some help with it..

The pc will be used for all the normal stuff(music,videos,movies, some video editing etc) and a game or two.. of the latest games of course

now we need the rig and a monitor.. we got £600 quid to play with.. any suggestions?

no preference on either intel/amd or nvidia/ati best bag for buck is what we are looking for

thanks

95thrifles · 3 Oct 2010 at 21:38

MSI GeForce GTX 460 Cyclone 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £170.36 (£144.99)
OcUK Cream 23.6" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Black £126.89 (£107.99)
AMD Athlon II X4 Quad Core 630 2.80GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail £70.49 (£59.99)
Patriot Viper 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C7 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (PVS34G1600LLK) £70.49 (£59.99)
Gigabyte GA-880GM-UD2H AMD 880G (Socket AM3) microATX DDR3 Motherboard £59.98 (£51.05)
Corsair CX 400W ATX Power Supply (CMPSU-400CXUK) £32.99 (£28.08)
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (ST3500418AS) £29.99 (£25.52)
Xigmatek Asgard Midi Tower Case - Black £28.99 (£24.67)
Samsung SH-S223L/RSMN 22x DVD±RW SATA Lightscribe ReWriter (Beige/Black/Silver) - Retail £12.98 (£11.05)
Total: £603.16

grudas · 3 Oct 2010 at 21:42

thanks.. are you sure the 400w PSU will be enough?

stulid · 3 Oct 2010 at 21:43

95thrifles · 3 Oct 2010 at 21:52

grudas said:
thanks.. are you sure the 400w PSU will be enough?

As can be seen here, load power consumption is 331W, and thats full load which your PC will rarely reach

VFM Addict · 3 Oct 2010 at 22:14

Actually the Corsair CX400 is a far better psu than its name suggests.

See - http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Corsair-CX400W-Power-Supply-Review/750/8

...and its trustworthy

grudas · 4 Oct 2010 at 09:54

cool! thanks a lot we do like the studlid's build more so we might adjust some things and go for it!

VFM Addict · 4 Oct 2010 at 10:02

You'll like that Silverstone case I have its brother the 05 and they are quality cases at a very good price.

Cheers,
vfm

95thrifles · 4 Oct 2010 at 17:35

grudas said:
cool! thanks a lot we do like the studlid's build more so we might adjust some things and go for it!

I normally like Stulids builds but I fail to see how in this instance his with a worse gfx card, smaller screen, worse mobo is better? (nicer case and slightly larger but as proven unneccesary PSU)

Jony27 · 4 Oct 2010 at 18:34

worse gfx,smaller screen, worse mobo?
how would you improve these things without going over budget?
just wanted to know what you have come up with to beat it.

95thrifles · 4 Oct 2010 at 18:35

My first post, scroll up

stulid · 4 Oct 2010 at 18:52

your screen is the same resolution, means the pixels are are bigger creating a worse image.

absolutely no reviews about the lag of the ocuk screen, so whats ghosting like?

spaghetti psu.

VFM Addict · 4 Oct 2010 at 18:56

I'd go with 95th's build but drop out the 1GB for the 768GB 460 and use the saving to fund that Silverstone PS03B case instead of the Xigmatek case.

I've said it before but the performance difference 'tween a 1GB and a 768MB really only shows up in benchmarks even at 1900 x 1200. Take at look at the following link and decide if you think anyone could tell which was which without benchmarking. In my experience a 10% difference in frame rates is all but impossible for the human eye to detect.

See - http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/156?vs=180

Cheers,
vfm

95thrifles · 4 Oct 2010 at 21:42

stulid said:
your screen is the same resolution, means the pixels are are bigger creating a worse image.

absolutely no reviews about the lag of the ocuk screen, so whats ghosting like?

spaghetti psu.

Dont quite get the reasoning of same res and bigger screen = worse picture, nvm

Re no reviews, Im sure you know full well that OcUK dont make their own screens and if you look at the enlarged image and discover its a HKC screen and then google for HKC monitor reviews there are plenty and theyre all pretty good

Dont remotely understand spaghetti PSU, can you clarify what you mean please?

And VFM yes youre right the difference in performance is neglible, and since the 768 variant price drops it does make more sense now than it did before

stulid · 4 Oct 2010 at 21:49

95thrifles said:
Dont quite get the reasoning of same res and bigger screen = worse picture, nvm

Re no reviews, Im sure you know full well that OcUK dont make their own screens and if you look at the enlarged image and discover its a HKC screen and then google for HKC monitor reviews there are plenty and theyre all pretty good

Dont remotely understand spaghetti PSU, can you clarify what you mean please?

And VFM yes youre right the difference in performance is neglible, and since the 768 variant price drops it does make more sense now than it did before

bigger pixels= blockier image, for example im sat in front of two samsung tft's right now, both have the same resolution, but one has a better/finer image, its the smaller one.

spaghetti psu= non modular

95thrifles · 4 Oct 2010 at 21:50

Ahh k, get you on spaghetti now, we'll have to agree to disagree re the size thing

Jony27 · 4 Oct 2010 at 21:53

yeah never really understood the bigger size but same res thingy.
so its like saying a 22" would be better than the 24" if they both had the same res?
an example would be the BenQ 22" and 24" same res but different size, which one would be better?

stulid · 4 Oct 2010 at 21:55

the smaller one will have a sharper image.

Jony27 · 4 Oct 2010 at 21:56

and by sharper image you mean better quality because theres like £50 difference between the two

p.s what do the cd/m^2 and response time mean? is it higher the better for the cd/m and lower the better for response time? and im still unsure if the higher the contrast the "sharper" the image quality will be.
can some clarify this for me?