670... first thoughts

s0ck · 2 Aug 2012 at 18:23

Not impressed.

I've upgraded from a 280. I play @ 1680/120Hz.

L4D2 = I seem to have less FPS if anything. At best, it's around the same. I'm occasionally dipping into the 50s. WTF. It used to be around 120 more or less solid.

World of tanks. 45fps with everything turned on. 50-150 with most things turned off. There is probably an increase of 10fps here 'across the board'.

Quakelive is unaffected, as you'd expect for a 20~ year old game.

CPU is an i3-530 @ 3.3GHz.

Was I expecting too much? Driver issue (301.42)? £350 down and I feel like this was a pointless upgrade.

arc@css · 2 Aug 2012 at 18:26

Cpu bottleneck is the first thing that springs to my mind.

whyscotty · 2 Aug 2012 at 18:27

beaten to it

spixelspixel · 2 Aug 2012 at 18:28

l4d2 is a source engine game which means very cpu dependant. I doubt your fps is worse, it just varies in a game like that.

s0ck · 2 Aug 2012 at 18:28

That would be a shame. Not sure I can justify an entire rig upgrade ;/

Code:

Powered by Unigine Engine

Heaven Benchmark v3.0 Basic

FPS:	
69.5
Scores:	
1750
Min FPS:	
19.6
Max FPS:	
134.3
Hardware

Binary:	
Windows 32bit Visual C++ 1600 Release Mar 7 2012
Operating system:	
Windows 7 (build 7601, Service Pack 1) 64bit
CPU model:	
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 530 @ 2.93GHz
CPU flags:	
3520MHz MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3 SSE41 SSE42 HTT
GPU model:	
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 8.17.13.142 2048Mb
Settings

Render:	
direct3d11
Mode:	
1680x1050 4xAA fullscreen
Shaders:	
high
Textures:	
high
Filter:	
trilinear
Anisotropy:	
4x
Occlusion:	
enabled
Refraction:	
enabled
Volumetric:	
enabled
Tessellation:	
normal

illuz · 2 Aug 2012 at 18:28

Really? There shouldnt be any bottleneck with that CPU at all so it musnt be that. Have you tried any games which you could not play on your 280 full whack - bf3 etc? Somethings wrong here i think, the 670 is amazing.

Mind i dont know how the 280 is, i upgraded from an old 7950GT OC.

arc@css · 2 Aug 2012 at 18:29

Can you overclock it further?

psychodil · 2 Aug 2012 at 18:31

Even if he is CPU limited, he shouldn't be showing lower frame rates. The 670 should urinate All over L4D2. Try different drivers, the heaven bench looks OK though :confused:

s0ck · 2 Aug 2012 at 18:32

arc@css said:
Can you overclock it further?

It will do 3.6 prime stable but silence is golden

illuz · 2 Aug 2012 at 18:32

arc@css said:
Can you overclock it further?

There shouldnt be any reason to, the issue here is not the card? Bottleneck of some sort.

Edit// oh the cpu...

s0ck · 2 Aug 2012 at 18:34

psychodil said:
Even if he is CPU limited, he shouldn't be showing lower frame rates. The 670 should urinate All over L4D2. Try different drivers, the heaven bench looks OK though

Which ones?

arc@css · 2 Aug 2012 at 18:34

illuz said:
There shouldnt be any reason to, the issue here is not the card? Bottleneck of some sort.

I meant overclocking the cpu.

spixelspixel · 2 Aug 2012 at 18:34

It's not that he's cpu limited.. just the games he are playing are very cpu intensive. A gtx 280 is more than enough for l4d2 so a 670 will not show much difference in that game. His cpu will not bottleneck him in most other games.

gtx 285 vs 480 in sli

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/166?vs=159

look at the difference in l4d compared to other games

Having a 670 will allow up to increase the resolution/settings a lot without having any impact on fps though.

Gregster · 2 Aug 2012 at 18:39

Can you run 3Dmark11 please and post your results. This will give an indication of something is wrong/bottleneck at least.

spixelspixel · 2 Aug 2012 at 18:43

gregster said:
Can you run 3Dmark11 please and post your results. This will give an indication of something is wrong/bottleneck at least.

He will obviously get a lower score in 3dmark because it has cpu tests in it which affect the final score. He already posted a heaven benchmark result which is exactly what it should be.

Actually I just noticed his heaven was run at 1680x1050. With that resolution and settings his score should be a small bit over 75, 69 is normal for 1920x1080 so there might be a bit of bottleneck.

Gregster · 2 Aug 2012 at 18:47

spixelspixel said:
He will obviously get a lower score in 3dmark because it has cpu tests in it which affect the final score. He already posted a heaven benchmark result which is exactly what it should be.

You can see the various scores for GPU/CPU so I was expecting to compare that with other scores. I was only trying to help.

arc@css · 2 Aug 2012 at 18:50

spixelspixel said:
It's not that he's cpu limited.. just the games he are playing are very cpu intensive. A gtx 280 is more than enough for l4d2 so a 670 will not show much difference in that game. His cpu will not bottleneck him in most other games.

gtx 285 vs 480 in sli

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/166?vs=159

look at the difference in l4d compared to other games

Having a 670 will allow up to increase the resolution/settings a lot without having any impact on fps though.

That's a very good point, though I still think he would benefit considerably from a better cpu, such as i5 / i7 / sandybridge / ivybridge. I guess we'd need to see a greater variety of games to determine what's happening. Having said all that, I agree somewhat that his cpu should in general enable a decent, playable experience.

psychodil · 2 Aug 2012 at 19:10

Really don't know why he spent £350 on a GPU to play qualkelive and L4D2 at 1680 Res :confused:

Maybe he should check if he has had a decent FPS increase in solitaire too

s0ck · 2 Aug 2012 at 19:12

psychodil said:
Really don't know why he spent £350 on a GPU to play qualkelive and L4D2 at 1680 Res

Maybe he should check if he has had a decent FPS increase in solitaire too

Thanks for your contribution

psychodil · 2 Aug 2012 at 19:15

Sorry

Your heaven bench looks acceptable, perhaps a little low, I think you just have an unbalanced system. Try some modern games :cool: