7770

[Surveyor]

Not just that.

I have a feeling they will be sub 300 soon

Overclock already have the HIS at £335 and by the looks of it other vendors are following suit.

If they're not sub £300 by the end of the month I look forward to your performance

 

[bhavv]

Just because some people will blindly purchase them regardless of cost to performance, or being a blatant downgrade from a 5770, doesn't make them good.

The 7770 is lower spec than a 5770 was - only 640 sharers and a 128 bit memory bus is a downgrade, and is going to be too slow for most recent and upcoming games and no better at all than a 5770 clocked to 1 Ghz.

 

[Martini1991]

It's not a downgrade from a 5770, and it uses different shaders to the 5770.

 

[555BUK]

It's not a downgrade from a 5770, and it uses different shaders to the 5770.

It depends which way you look at it.

The 7770 is faster than the 5770 within current benchmarks and games. The minor speed gains come coutesy of much higher clock speeds and optimised (but notably fewer) shaders.

In 2010, the 5770 would play almost any game at reasonable resolutions. In 2012 the 7770 will struggle to do the same. For it's time, the 5770 was the much better card.

In the same way that the 9700pro was better than the 7970 (or any ATI/AMD card since), the 5770 was much better than the 7770 is.

Even the crapy 5830 was a better card than this 7770 (I am not talking about performance, but position in the maket). My opinion is that the 5700 series were MUCH better cards than the 7770's. The 5700's made hugh steps forward over previous gen cards. The 7700's take a relative step backwards. IMO they are the poorest ATI/AMD cards for many years.

 

[Alex h]

If they're not sub £300 by the end of the month I look forward to your performance

plus 1

 

[deshepherd]

It depends which way you look at it.

The 7770 is faster than the 5770 within current benchmarks and games. The minor speed gains come coutesy of much higher clock speeds and optimised (but notably fewer) shaders.

Not just that, from what I've read the 7xxx VLIW execution is able to do a limited amount of reordering of instructions to remove stall cycles that would have occurred without this. (Just as with RISC the "simple execution model" of VLIW pipelines has started to crack!)

That said, 7770 still looks to be not much of a step from [56]770

 

[MAK360]

^THIS. The GPU forum is becoming a laughing stock because of the twisted logic highlighted in your post. That is not aimed directly at the poster your replying to.

you are a perfect example of this (called trolling). you're post wasn't a reply to anybody, should you have even bothered? seems the only joke here is you, as the message i sent was perfectly understood and then replied to.

 

[Marine-RX179]

It depends which way you look at it.

The 7770 is faster than the 5770 within current benchmarks and games. The minor speed gains come coutesy of much higher clock speeds and optimised (but notably fewer) shaders.

In 2010, the 5770 would play almost any game at reasonable resolutions. In 2012 the 7770 will struggle to do the same. For it's time, the 5770 was the much better card.

In the same way that the 9700pro was better than the 7970 (or any ATI/AMD card since), the 5770 was much better than the 7770 is.

Even the crapy 5830 was a better card than this 7770 (I am not talking about performance, but position in the maket). My opinion is that the 5700 series were MUCH better cards than the 7770's. The 5700's made hugh steps forward over previous gen cards. The 7700's take a relative step backwards. IMO they are the poorest ATI/AMD cards for many years.

Also, I think it is wrong for people to even compare 5770 to 7770. Why? Because back in the 5000 series generation, after the the 5770 then there's only the 5850 for mid-range, and then 5870 for top-range for single GPU card. Since 6000 series, AMD changed their naming approach, and shoved 68xx in the middle, and made the 6950 the middle range which replaces 5850, to make the 6770 a budget level, and 68xx entry level gaming card. Now they are attempting to push a budget card to become entry level gaming card, and make the 7750 the budget level card...in another other word, it's nothing but a plan to increase the price (yes! money money money!) on all their cards. May be by next gen, we would see 85xx cards being the budget cards, and the 8670 being push up to the £120 range

 

[easyrider]

If they're not sub £300 by the end of the month I look forward to your performance

 

[morguk]

Is there any news on a 2GB 7770? I'm asking because 2 in crossfire would give amazing bang for buck.

 

[arc@css]

Is there any news on a 2GB 7770? I'm asking because 2 in crossfire would give amazing bang for buck.

Yes, it would be potentially very good performance for the money, but only if the game fully supported crossfire, though it would probably be cheaper to crossfire two 6850's - which have a superior spec for performance in games than when compared to the 7770. Regardless, I would much rather opt for one 7850 which is currently available here for £180, has 2gb of memory, and with at least a half decent overclock will reach greater than 7870 speeds, and quite possibly even further than that.

Take a look at post number eleven :

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18389760

Also, with 6950 / 7850 crossfire, if you can only use one gpu due to crossfire being unsupported, then one card will still deliver very good performance in a vast majority of games, where as with one 7770 or maybe even one 6850, you will notice the lack of capability when you have to fall back on one graphics processor.

 

[chipachap]

Also, I think it is wrong for people to even compare 5770 to 7770. Why? Because back in the 5000 series generation, after the the 5770 then there's only the 5850 for mid-range, and then 5870 for top-range for single GPU card. Since 6000 series, AMD changed their naming approach, and shoved 68xx in the middle, and made the 6950 the middle range which replaces 5850, to make the 6770 a budget level, and 68xx entry level gaming card. Now they are attempting to push a budget card to become entry level gaming card, and make the 7750 the budget level card...in another other word, it's nothing but a plan to increase the price (yes! money money money!) on all their cards. May be by next gen, we would see 85xx cards being the budget cards, and the 8670 being push up to the £120 range

+1 This.

With the old naming scheme a 5770 would be a 7870 equivalent would it not? So technically basing on where each card stood/stand it would be a downgrade from a 5770 but not performance wise, if that makes sense!

 

[morguk]

Yes, it would be potentially very good performance for the money, but only if the game fully supported crossfire, though it would probably be cheaper to crossfire two 6850's - which have a superior spec for performance in games than when compared to the 7770. Regardless, I would much rather opt for one 7850 which is currently available here for £180, has 2gb of memory, and with at least a half decent overclock will reach greater than 7870 speeds, and quite possibly even further than that.

Take a look at post number eleven :

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18389760

Also, with 6950 / 7850 crossfire, if you can only use one gpu due to crossfire being unsupported, then one card will still deliver very good performance in a vast majority of games, where as with one 7770 or maybe even one 6850, you will notice the lack of capability when you have to fall back on one graphics processor.

Yeh, it's just there are 6850/70's that have 2GB but they are rare and expensive. If there was a good priced 2GB 7770 it would be great for BF3.