7800X3D now or wait?

Dirk Diggler · 3 Dec 2023 at 12:40

I'd be upgrading from 5900x and it's getting paired with 7900XT.

The 7800X3D looks to have a decent price reduction right now at £348 with the Avatar bundle? I upgraded my GPU this year and I could wait it out through 2024 for something else, but I wouldn't want to be going into 2025 as I'd be upgrading the GPU again - I like to do it alternate years.

Essentially - Is the 5900x to 7800X3D a decent lift in performance for gaming, and is there nothing I'd be missing out on being released in the next 9 months?

TIA

Dirk Diggler · 3 Dec 2023 at 15:02

Toekiller said:
Different cpu sockets are they not? So you need a new mb as well.

Found this...

Reddit - Dive into anything

www.reddit.com

Yes, I would need to buy mobo and ram too.

Dirk Diggler · 3 Dec 2023 at 15:05

Tetras said:
If you're not in a hurry and are prepared to wait until 2024, then you might as well wait for Zen 5 / 15th gen, either to buy those CPUs, or get a discount.

Many AM4/AM5 CPUs in these benchmarks:

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I'm thinking the mobo and ram will be a decent enough investment and that I can still change the CPU if the gains are good.

Going by the initial links you two have posted, it looks like the jump is decent from the 5900x.

I'll get reading up on it.. Thanks.

Dirk Diggler · 3 Dec 2023 at 15:30

Wing-Man said:
if you need a new CPU then do it now. if when you have is working fine then wait till its not doing it job anymore

the 7800X3D is an amazing gaming cpu

It's not need, it's want.

Dirk Diggler · 3 Dec 2023 at 16:27

Wing-Man said:
what GPU do you have, what res/hz screen and what gams do you play

7900XT
CX48 (4k 120Hz)
AW3423DW (3440*1440 120Hz)

Games are totally varied, I honestly couldn't settle on a particular genre. Although I do intend to get some hours in with Cyberpunk and I'll be all over the Elden Ring DLC. Balder's Gate 3, Hogwarts Legacy.

Dirk Diggler · 3 Dec 2023 at 19:04

bakes0310 said:
Sorry to derail but how you finding your 7900xt coping at 4k?

It's an awesome card, but I have to say I have absolutely no interest in Raytracing so if that's important to you then YMMV.

I can't believe how cool and quiet the 7900XT is for the pixels it pushes.

Dirk Diggler · 4 Dec 2023 at 05:24

Noxia said:
On topic, I nearly did a pointless upgrade myself but decided I'll do the pointless upgrade for the next cpu.

When is the next CPU due for release, have there been any indications?

Dirk Diggler · 4 Dec 2023 at 08:46

Platform longevity is a fair point, a decent motherboard will get BIOS updates along the cycle and be as good as any future models, unless of course a hardware dependant feature comes along; did that even happen with AM4? SAM?

Dirk Diggler · 5 Dec 2023 at 08:57

Ok, looks like I'm going to be stuck at work due to weather at the end of the week and some unexpected cash heading my way as a result - this is clearly an omen.

Does anyone have any suggestions for a spec list? The motherboards look quite pricey and I'm unsure of best compatibility for memory? Bearing in mind that I'll probably drop a future *X3D in there, so longevity is important.

I would require...

7800X3D
Motherboard
32GB RAM

TIA

Dirk Diggler · 5 Dec 2023 at 10:42

rumple9 said:
Save the £750 on the cpu mobo and ram upgrade and put it towards a RTX5090 in 2025 - you wont see much difference with a new platform at 4k except 1% lows

I'll be upgrading the GPU in 2025 regardless.

Dirk Diggler · 5 Dec 2023 at 12:41

Glanza said:
My basket at OcUK:

1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £347.99

1 x AMD - Avatar Ryzen Bundle (SKU: DIG-AMD-01185) = £0.00

1 x MSI MPG B650 Carbon WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-372-MS) = £269.99

1 x Corsair Vengeance 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel (SKU: MEM-CRS-01125) = £124.99

Total: £750.96 (includes delivery: £7.99)

I see the Tomahawk is a fair bit less expensive, what would you say made you opt for the Carbon? Anything performance related?

Dirk Diggler · 5 Dec 2023 at 12:43

WTF? Has OcUK enabled auto ads?

Dirk Diggler · 5 Dec 2023 at 12:50

Ooh, I'm seeing the MSI Carbon supports gen 5 M2 - is that a noticeable storage upgrade, or much the same as gen 4 in practice?

Dirk Diggler · 5 Dec 2023 at 20:05

That B650 Carbon is a lovely looking board - I can't believe I'm lusting after hardware again. It's like an illness

Dirk Diggler · 6 Dec 2023 at 09:14

The MSI board for around £220 seems ok to me, plenty of M2 storage which is great and hopefully suitably "high end" that future chips should involve a BIOS update and drop in?

Dirk Diggler · 8 Dec 2023 at 16:13

tris179 said:
5800X3d is always an option! I sold my 5900X and went with a 5800X3D, should get me to the next generation quite happily... Running with a 3080 and made a big difference going from 5900x to 5800X3D!

Thanks, I kinda thought the upgrade wouldn't be so noticeable - I'll look into it.

Dirk Diggler · 10 Dec 2023 at 12:06

Subzero85 said:
Currently got a ryzen 9 3900x and a 2080 super graphics card, would i get away with going 5800x3d and say the upcoming 4080 super graphics card to give me a boost in gaming, or would there be a bottleneck between the 5800x3d and 4080. Got this PC just before covid hit the first time, super glad i did because prices then went haywire and im now looking to upgrade

What resolution are you playing at?

Dirk Diggler · 10 Dec 2023 at 12:24

Subzero85 said:
currently got a 27 inch LG gaming monitor, 2560x1440p res

What the frequency you game at e.g. 120Hz, 165Hz etc.

Dirk Diggler · 10 Dec 2023 at 12:43

At 165Hz / 1440p then I would think the 5800X3D would make a big difference over your 3900x.

I'm not 100% whether it would bottleneck the 4080 too much, but others will reply I'm sure.

Dirk Diggler · 28 Jan 2024 at 14:17

I'm quite close to making a decision with this. I could sell my 5900x and pick up a new 5800x3d for around £100 outlay.

Or, I could do the upgrade to AM5 but I'd like longevity to upgrade the CPU as we progress through the refresh cycles. How does this shopping list look? There seems to be loads of choice for DDR5 but I'm not sure which set the 7800x3d would be best compatible with?

My basket at OcUK:

1 x Corsair Vengeance 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel (SKU: MEM-CRS-01125) = £124.99
1 x MSI MPG B650 Carbon WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-372-MS) = £269.99
1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £374.99

Total: £777.96 (includes delivery: £7.99)