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Hello all, just wondering what's people's thoughts on air coolers for the 7950x and maybe the up and coming 7950x3D (as there is a chance I will upgrade to this).
I have an aero cool as500 plus which seems fine, but I do wonder if there is a lot better for either not much more money or a lot better in general.

Running my 7950x in eco-mode, and playing war zone and MW2, it hits around 70 degrees or so.

Many thanks who reply, always appreciate it :)
 
Hello all, just wondering what's people's thoughts on air coolers for the 7950x and maybe the up and coming 7950x3D (as there is a chance I will upgrade to this).
I have an aero cool as500 plus which seems fine, but I do wonder if there is a lot better for either not much more money or a lot better in general.

Running my 7950x in eco-mode, and playing war zone and MW2, it hits around 70 degrees or so.

Many thanks who reply, always appreciate it :)
70 degrees is fine.
Don’t see why the X3D version would be harder to cool either. I’d also wait for the 8950X3D before upgrading if I was you.

If it’s working, why replace it?
 
70 degrees is fine.
Don’t see why the X3D version would be harder to cool either. I’d also wait for the 8950X3D before upgrading if I was you.

If it’s working, why replace it?

No, your right if it's OK, no need to replace. As for the cooling, yeah I mean it's totally fine I guess just nit-picking and always wonder if there is a lot better to be had so to speak.
 
Hello all, just wondering what's people's thoughts on air coolers for the 7950x and maybe the up and coming 7950x3D (as there is a chance I will upgrade to this).
I have an aero cool as500 plus which seems fine, but I do wonder if there is a lot better for either not much more money or a lot better in general.

Running my 7950x in eco-mode, and playing war zone and MW2, it hits around 70 degrees or so.

Many thanks who reply, always appreciate it :)
Question. Why do you have an 7950x but run it in eco mode? Doesn't that nerf the multicore performance?
 
It doesn’t hurt performance that much. Outside of benchmarks that is.
So do you not use any applications that utilise the full multicore performance? Makes me wonder why you didn't buy a cheaper chip?

You could set it at a nice middle ground using PBO. I set my 5800x to 120watts, for example, as that's as much power as it can dissapate through heat before it starts hitting the 90c threshold. If I limit it to 65 watts my handbrake conversions take longer.
 
An Asus AM5 board will let you set a thermal limit of say 80, 90c etc. Which still helps maintain a lot of performance, especially combined with PBO, but with reduced temperatures and power draw.
 
So do you not use any applications that utilise the full multicore performance? Makes me wonder why you didn't buy a cheaper chip?

You could set it at a nice middle ground using PBO. I set my 5800x to 120watts, for example, as that's as much power as it can dissapate through heat before it starts hitting the 90c threshold. If I limit it to 65 watts my handbrake conversions take longer.

Eco mode just makes the X/K CPUs run a bit saner out of the box, some big efficiency gains to be had with long-run workloads.
 
I mean yes I have a 7950x and to be fully honest yes I don't fully utilize this power. I guess from the sounds of it, my cooler is fine, and I should not worry about it. I just think about the summer months abit really.
 
I mean yes I have a 7950x and to be fully honest yes I don't fully utilize this power. I guess from the sounds of it, my cooler is fine, and I should not worry about it. I just think about the summer months abit really.
I'm thinking you'll be fine in the Summer. Worst case scenario the 7950x cuts off to protect itself.
 
A 7950X using the 105W eco mode is still faster than a stock 7900X in everything. It's not like enabling eco mode nerfs it to a 7600X
Only so long as it's on the 105W eco mode and not the 65W eco mode. At 65W it has the same multicore performance as the 7900X. Single threaded performance across all the Ryzen chips is similar, anyway.
 
Question. Why do you have an 7950x but run it in eco mode? Doesn't that nerf the multicore performance?
iv seen people do this and it makes no sense, why buy 16 core cpu if all people are gonna do is play games. and if you buy this cpu for the multithread performance then it makes no sense to nerf it with eco mode. :confused:
 
iv seen people do this and it makes no sense, why buy 16 core cpu if all people are gonna do is play games. and if you buy this cpu for the multithread performance then it makes no sense to nerf it with eco mode. :confused:
Power saving, thermal/noise ratio, BIOS borked by manufacturer until new one is released... Any one of these or more could be a reason why they're in Eco mode.

I myself have the 7950X sitting in 65W Eco Mode, because otherwise, with the existing latest BIOS for the motherboard (from October/November), I can't apply the 105W Eco Mode as it doesn't stick. I'd need to go to the previous BIOS which crashes a bit more and has other issues in order to get to 105W Eco Mode. So I'm stuck with the Ryzen Master method to go into Eco Mode until then.

And currently, it's being used as a gaming rig and playing games that have no need for any of the power the CPU can pull. So shunting it down to Eco 65W saves a bit of power useage and money until a time I game harder (when the new GPU arrives as well), or I get a request into helping out on something that requires it to go full steam ahead.
 
Power saving, thermal/noise ratio, BIOS borked by manufacturer until new one is released... Any one of these or more could be a reason why they're in Eco mode.

I myself have the 7950X sitting in 65W Eco Mode, because otherwise, with the existing latest BIOS for the motherboard (from October/November), I can't apply the 105W Eco Mode as it doesn't stick. I'd need to go to the previous BIOS which crashes a bit more and has other issues in order to get to 105W Eco Mode. So I'm stuck with the Ryzen Master method to go into Eco Mode until then.

And currently, it's being used as a gaming rig and playing games that have no need for any of the power the CPU can pull. So shunting it down to Eco 65W saves a bit of power useage and money until a time I game harder (when the new GPU arrives as well), or I get a request into helping out on something that requires it to go full steam ahead.
Surely a 7700x would have been a better purchase if you're just gaming? Some games will pull more than 65w from a Ryzen chip, so if you're gonna do eco mode it should be the 105w
 
Surely a 7700x would have been a better purchase if you're just gaming? Some games will pull more than 65w from a Ryzen chip, so if you're gonna do eco mode it should be the 105w
Possibly, if events had unfolded differently. But at the time, no.

The prices for the 7000 CPU's were not discounted at the time. So the 7700X was around £430-450 at the time. That's for the same core count as my old 4930k (at 4.2 to 4.5 Ghz) that I was coming from (and that was starting to struggle with certain stuff I did that a future GPU upgrade could not alleviate alone). For just another £150 odd (back then), I could grab the 7900X that had more cores and higher top speed, which is what I ended up budgeting for. Then before I bit the bullet, the price drop happened along with the Black Friday sales. The 7950X suddenly was in the price bracket of the CPU I had budgeted for, so that's why I ended up with that.

Had there been a 7800X, to be honest, I would have grabbed that instead, as there would have been a core increase that would have allowed me to assess better the games and non games I did was going to be fine for a while longer, or if I needed a lot more grunt from the CPU. But as there was no such chip, the only viable option was the 7900X, which as above, became the 7950X.

As for the Eco 65W mode, that's an unfortunate byproduct of the BIOS on the Asus Proart X670E motherboard BIOS that is available since Novemeber. Because it does not adhere to the Eco 105W setting entered into the settings and stays at 170W (full) mode only (it did on previous BIOS versions but those are also less stable). So the only way to reduce it (for now) is to use Ryzen Master software to drop it to Eco 65W mode. And for everything I've used it on so far, it works a treat. Once the BIOS is fixed and allows settings to adhere to what you set into it, I'll be onto Eco 105W mode. But until then Eco 65W is my only option other than full 170W.
 
Possibly, if events had unfolded differently. But at the time, no.

The prices for the 7000 CPU's were not discounted at the time. So the 7700X was around £430-450 at the time. That's for the same core count as my old 4930k (at 4.2 to 4.5 Ghz) that I was coming from (and that was starting to struggle with certain stuff I did that a future GPU upgrade could not alleviate alone). For just another £150 odd (back then), I could grab the 7900X that had more cores and higher top speed, which is what I ended up budgeting for. Then before I bit the bullet, the price drop happened along with the Black Friday sales. The 7950X suddenly was in the price bracket of the CPU I had budgeted for, so that's why I ended up with that.

Had there been a 7800X, to be honest, I would have grabbed that instead, as there would have been a core increase that would have allowed me to assess better the games and non games I did was going to be fine for a while longer, or if I needed a lot more grunt from the CPU. But as there was no such chip, the only viable option was the 7900X, which as above, became the 7950X.

As for the Eco 65W mode, that's an unfortunate byproduct of the BIOS on the Asus Proart X670E motherboard BIOS that is available since Novemeber. Because it does not adhere to the Eco 105W setting entered into the settings and stays at 170W (full) mode only (it did on previous BIOS versions but those are also less stable). So the only way to reduce it (for now) is to use Ryzen Master software to drop it to Eco 65W mode. And for everything I've used it on so far, it works a treat. Once the BIOS is fixed and allows settings to adhere to what you set into it, I'll be onto Eco 105W mode. But until then Eco 65W is my only option other than full 170W.
Your old 8 core was struggling because it was old and slow, not because it only had 8 cores. A 7700x in gaming is just as fast, if not sometimes faster than a 7900x & 7950x. More cores does not equal more gaming performance (at least on Ryzen). Also more clock speed alone does not equal more performance. It's just a shame, as you probably could have saved yourself £100-£200 and put it toward something else in your rig, or upgraded to the 7***X3D later on, if you felt the need.

If you're happy with it, that's great. I'm not taking the ****. Just want to point out that cores and clocks are not everything, especially for gaming. It's a whole different kettle of fish when it comes to productivity. Something to bear in mind for future purchasing decisions.
 
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