7970 wont OC above Catalyst

Mal X · 2 Sep 2012 at 15:25

ok i went home, Catayst is set at 1125/ 1575 and 1.170v

i went into Trixx and adjusted it to 1229/1675 and 1.193v, as said; i dont wanna go crazy this time around

i went into MSI Afterburner but it said 1125/1575 on maximum slider, but it still gave me 1.193v...... so it's lowered the gpu clock/ mem back to the Catalyst settings, i could not type in the higher settings in the box beside where it sais MAX, because it kept defaulting back to Catalyst

i went into Kombustor and i noticed it said in the list 1.170 v rather than 1.193v. so this software looks like it's lowered the voltage instead, as per Catalyst, back to stock.

only Trixx is giving me what i put in, but it looks like these values are returning to the AMD Catalyst values when i stress test it via Kombustor...

i fooled around with it for ages, but i couldn't get the voltage up to 1.193 on Kombustor and in Afterburner, i couldn't raise the clock/ mem to what it is in Trixx

LtMatt · 2 Sep 2012 at 15:34

If you want to overclock with afterburner then read this.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18431335

humbug · 2 Sep 2012 at 15:34

I have the same problem with MSI AB on My Gigabyte. Sapphire and Gigabyte use there own PCB's, it seems MSI AB can't deal with PCB's that are not reference, I use TRIXX to overclock, it works much better than AB on my card.

Also, MSI Kombustor is Furmark under another name, All modern cards throttle down with it so the volts reading your getting from it are defunct, its also not a good stress testing tool for that reason. i use Unique Heaven in loop to stress test, its the best thing there is for that with tessellation maxed.

Gregster · 2 Sep 2012 at 15:36

Dave Beast and others will help you Mal...Oh wait, you called them all idiots...Maybe they won't then

Mal X · 2 Sep 2012 at 15:46

ok so Trixx works, but i deffo dont like msi afterburner, because i noticed other bugs with it too.... i'll download unique heaven when my rig is here and get rid of the other stuff, i trust you're right

dave_beast · 2 Sep 2012 at 15:47

Mal, do you really need to overclock it by 104/100mhz? Are your games not running as smooth as you like?

I would wager a bet that both the above answers would be no, hence my answer is to leave it alone.

Mal X · 2 Sep 2012 at 15:48

gregster said:
Dave Beast and others will help you Mal...Oh wait, you called them all idiots...Maybe they won't then

not a very helpful comment, no wonder you annoy me so much, just for the record, this is you attacking me first today, so if i attack you later on today or tonight, then you only have yourself to blame.... Nvidia troll !

humbug · 2 Sep 2012 at 15:50

I'm not to keen on MSI AB myself, Sapphire TRIXX is a nice, simple, clean and bug-less tool that just works and does exactly what you want it to.

All i use MSI AB for is the OSD, that's it. Using TRIXX for a while i have grown to dislike it as an overclocking tool.

Mal X · 2 Sep 2012 at 15:54

dave_beast said:
Mal, do you really need to overclock it by 104/100mhz? Are your games not running as smooth as you like?

I would wager a bet that both the above answers would be no, hence my answer is to leave it alone.

the games aren't running smooth, but maybe this is because they're old games....because Deux Ex looks fine, i just fancy adding a bit of extra poke that's all

LtMatt · 2 Sep 2012 at 15:57

Trixxx is at best a poor mans afterburner.

So afterburner doesn't work with custom pcb's? Is that correct? Maybe that explains why some people were complaining that they couldn't unlock voltage control in my afterburner overclock thread.

Mal X · 2 Sep 2012 at 15:59

humbug said:
I'm not to keen on MSI AB myself, Sapphire TRIXX is a nice, simple, clean and bug-less tool that just works and does exactly what you want it to.

All i use MSI AB for is the OSD, that's it. Using TRIXX for a while i have grown to dislike it as an overclocking tool.

yes but with Trixx i'll still need to stress test it, so i'll still need that unique heaven software.

i think it's ok because i noticed no sparking sound or coil whine like last time, but i'm still very unhappy that i cant test it... lets face it, i've only added a very small OC to the Catalyst OC

psychodil · 2 Sep 2012 at 16:00

Disable catalyst overclocking before trying trixx or afterburner.

Mal X · 2 Sep 2012 at 16:04

LtMatt said:
Trixxx is at best a poor mans afterburner.

So afterburner doesn't work with custom pcb's? Is that correct? Maybe that explains why some people were complaining that they couldn't unlock voltage control in my afterburner overclock thread.

NO I CAN ADJUST THE VOLTAGE EASILY.... that's fine, i cant adjust the MEM/GPU , it's set jam stuck at max slider which is exactly the same as Catalyst, it wont go any higher..... the voltage defaults back to stock only when i use Kombustor to stress test.

it was ok last time... yes maybe because last time i never used Catalyst, it wasn't turned on !

humbug · 2 Sep 2012 at 16:05

LtMatt said:
Trixxx is at best a poor mans afterburner.

So afterburner doesn't work with custom pcb's? Is that correct? Maybe that explains why some people were complaining that they couldn't unlock voltage control in my afterburner overclock thread.

What? explain yourself.

Have you ever used TRIXX? it does exactly the same thing as MSI AB, only it actually works every time. Are you trying to wind me up?

LtMatt · 2 Sep 2012 at 16:08

humbug said:
What? explain yourself.

Have you ever used TRIXX? it does exactly the same thing as MSI AB, only it actually works every time. Are you trying to wind me up?

Yes i have used both. While trixxx does the basics fine, fan control, overclocking, voltage etc afterburner does all that and more.

Afterburner has proper hardware monitoring, on screen display, screenshots, video recording and a ton of other stuff. Really, there is no competition between the two. Afterburner is miles ahead.

Mal X said:
NO I CAN ADJUST THE VOLTAGE EASILY.... that's fine, i cant adjust the MEM/GPU , it's set at max slider which is exactly the same as Catalyst..... the voltage defaults back to stock only when i use Kombustor to stress test.

but it also sais about msi Afterburner.....``driver missing``....``cant connect to internet``

Check that link i posted how to overclock using the official method but using afterburner with NO CLOCK LIMITS.

Gregster · 2 Sep 2012 at 16:11

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18404221

Remember that thread and many other threads you started and joined in? Angers me to think so many decent guys tried so hard to help you OC and yet you ignored advice and over volted your card. I am willing to bet you will do the same again.

humbug · 2 Sep 2012 at 16:13

I use GPU-Z for GPU monitoring, just like every experienced Hardware Enthusiast.

Video Recording is Crap in MSI AB, Quality is horrendous and very hardware hungry, i use FRAPS for that, just like every experienced Hardware Enthusiast

I will give you OSD, that is very good indeed, its the only reason its still installed.

Mal X · 2 Sep 2012 at 16:16

gregster said:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18404221

Remember that thread and many other threads you started and joined in? Angers me to think so many decent guys tried so hard to help you OC and yet you ignored advice and over volted your card. I am willing to bet you will do the same again.

stop sticking your nose in and causing trouble on my thread, because it was you that annoyed me last time as well, you're digging up the past, let it lie, you're vindictive plus a troll as well.

you have nothing to offer on this thread, except your poison, do me a favour and clear off, as said the proof is here, you attacked me above first.

LtMatt · 2 Sep 2012 at 16:17

humbug said:
I use GPU-Z for GPU monitoring, just like every experienced Hardware Enthusiast.

Video Recording is Crap in MSI AB, Quality is horrendous and very hardware hungry, i use FRAPS for that, just like every experienced Hardware Enthusiast

I will give you OSD, that is very good indeed, its the only reason its still installed.

Why use multiple apps when one does it all and more efficiently?

If that's how every experienced hardware enthusiast does it then they must be a couple of cans short of a six pack.

Mal X · 2 Sep 2012 at 16:20

humbug said:
I use GPU-Z for GPU monitoring, just like every experienced Hardware Enthusiast.

Video Recording is Crap in MSI AB, Quality is horrendous and very hardware hungry, i use FRAPS for that, just like every experienced Hardware Enthusiast

I will give you OSD, that is very good indeed, its the only reason its still installed.

to use Afterburner will need a new more recent download, because it's clearly obvious from that thread that it has issues/ bugs, i'd rather use Trixx but with another stress software

ok thanks how does GPU-Z compare to unique heaven