£800 Gaming PC

stulid · 25 Apr 2010 at 11:59

really?

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/88?vs=53

A 955 beats a Q6600 quite nicely thankyou.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 25 Apr 2010 at 12:51

Socket 1156 is going to be replaced by socket 1155 in Q1 2011 AFAIK whereas from the latest AMD roadmaps I have seen Bulldozer is on socket AM3.

The fact is ATM the Core i5 750 is £44 more on OcUK ATM than a Phenom II X4 955BE. A socket 1156 motherboard which can do symmetrical Crossfire is over £120. With an AM3 motherboard like the Asus M4A79XTD Evo which costs £90 the OP could add another HD5770 1GB at a later date to get more performance. A pair of HD5770 1GB cards can challenge even an HD5870 1GB.

subbytna · 25 Apr 2010 at 13:23

onboard audio is really good these days, no real need for a dedicated sound card imo

DanielDeronda · 27 Apr 2010 at 18:50

Product Name Qty Price Line Total

BenQ G2420HDBL 24" Widescreen LED Monitor BenQ G2420HDBL 24" Widescreen LED Monitor £164.99
(£140.42) £164.99
(£140.42)

AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 955 Black Edition 3.20GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 955 Black Edition 3.20GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail £125.98
(£107.22) £125.98
(£107.22)

Club 3D ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card Club 3D ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £116.99
(£99.57) £116.99
(£99.57)

G.Skill Ripjaw 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C8 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (F3-12800CL8D-4GBRM) G.Skill Ripjaw 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C8 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (F3-12800CL8D-4GBRM) £99.99
(£85.10) £99.99
(£85.10)

Asus M4A87TD Evo AMD 870 (Socket AM3) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard Asus M4A87TD Evo AMD 870 (Socket AM3) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard £92.99
(£79.14) £92.99
(£79.14)

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit - OEM (GFC-00599) Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit - OEM (GFC-00599) £79.99
(£68.08) £79.99
(£68.08)

LG CH08LS10 8x BluRay ROM / 16x DVD±RW Drive - Black (OEM) LG CH08LS10 8x BluRay ROM / 16x DVD±RW Drive - Black (OEM) £67.99
(£57.86) £67.99
(£57.86)

Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD103SJ) Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD103SJ) £65.99
(£56.16) £65.99
(£56.16)

OCZ ModXStream Pro 600w Silent SLI Certified Modular Power Supply OCZ ModXStream Pro 600w Silent SLI Certified Modular Power Supply £63.99
(£54.46) £63.99
(£54.46)

Coolermaster Elite 335 Case - Black Coolermaster Elite 335 Case - Black £30.98
(£26.37) £30.98
(£26.37)

Logitech MX518 Gaming-Grade Optical Mouse (910-000616) Logitech MX518 Gaming-Grade Optical Mouse (910-000616) £26.99
(£22.97) £26.99
(£22.97)

Logitech G11 Gaming Keyboard (967929-0120) Logitech G11 Gaming Keyboard (967929-0120) £25.99
(£22.12) £25.99
(£22.12)

Sub Total : £819.47
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
DPD Next Day Parcel
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £14.50
VAT is being charged at 17.50% VAT : £145.94
Total : £979.91

Where do you think I can make the savings to get it down nearer to £900 than £1000? Some of the cheaper items were out of stock.

Can I skimp on the processor (still go quadcore, but a slower speed?)

stulid · 27 Apr 2010 at 19:02

DanielDeronda said:
Product Name Qty Price Line Total

BenQ G2420HDBL 24" Widescreen LED Monitor BenQ G2420HDBL 24" Widescreen LED Monitor £164.99
(£140.42) £164.99
(£140.42)

AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 955 Black Edition 3.20GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 955 Black Edition 3.20GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail £125.98
(£107.22) £125.98
(£107.22)

Club 3D ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card Club 3D ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £116.99
(£99.57) £116.99
(£99.57)

G.Skill Ripjaw 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C8 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (F3-12800CL8D-4GBRM) G.Skill Ripjaw 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C8 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (F3-12800CL8D-4GBRM) £99.99
(£85.10) £99.99
(£85.10)

Asus M4A87TD Evo AMD 870 (Socket AM3) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard Asus M4A87TD Evo AMD 870 (Socket AM3) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard £92.99
(£79.14) £92.99
(£79.14)

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit - OEM (GFC-00599) Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit - OEM (GFC-00599) £79.99
(£68.08) £79.99
(£68.08)

LG CH08LS10 8x BluRay ROM / 16x DVD±RW Drive - Black (OEM) LG CH08LS10 8x BluRay ROM / 16x DVD±RW Drive - Black (OEM) £67.99
(£57.86) £67.99
(£57.86)

Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD103SJ) Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD103SJ) £65.99
(£56.16) £65.99
(£56.16)

OCZ ModXStream Pro 600w Silent SLI Certified Modular Power Supply OCZ ModXStream Pro 600w Silent SLI Certified Modular Power Supply £63.99
(£54.46) £63.99
(£54.46)

Coolermaster Elite 335 Case - Black Coolermaster Elite 335 Case - Black £30.98
(£26.37) £30.98
(£26.37)

Logitech MX518 Gaming-Grade Optical Mouse (910-000616) Logitech MX518 Gaming-Grade Optical Mouse (910-000616) £26.99
(£22.97) £26.99
(£22.97)

Logitech G11 Gaming Keyboard (967929-0120) Logitech G11 Gaming Keyboard (967929-0120) £25.99
(£22.12) £25.99
(£22.12)

Sub Total : £819.47
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
DPD Next Day Parcel
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £14.50
VAT is being charged at 17.50% VAT : £145.94
Total : £979.91

Where do you think I can make the savings to get it down nearer to £900 than £1000? Some of the cheaper items were out of stock.

Can I skimp on the processor (still go quadcore, but a slower speed?)

this Antec psu is superior.

www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-118-AN&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=1088

this motherboard is cheaper.

www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-366-AS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1481

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 27 Apr 2010 at 19:16

You could save some money going for the following monitor instead:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-030-BQ&groupid=17&catid=510&subcat=

If you don't need Crossfire get this motherboard:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-242-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1481

The motherboard has a split 8+2 phase VRM,SATA 3.0 and USB 3.0 too!

If you are not overclocking get the following motherboard:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-358-AS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1481

If you are not overclocking get this RAM:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-086-GL&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1516

I would also look at this case too:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-002-XG

DanielDeronda · 29 Apr 2010 at 18:06

Is there nothing that can be gotten for me via an Intel processor? Also what is the difference (if any) in the performance of say the i-5 750 & AMD Phenom II X4 Quadcore 955 processors. I'm getting a little confused with all the info I'm getting!!

NeoRed · 29 Apr 2010 at 19:25

screen is only 22 inch but is full HD.

DanielDeronda · 11 May 2010 at 18:48

I have now got another system for people to look at, it's a base unit only this time, as I have pretty much decided on my monitor, keyboard, mouse & speakers. My remaining budget is around £720 max inc VAT. As I have said previously, the PC is used for gaming mainly. I can maybe cut a little budget by having a DVD rewriter instead of a Blu-ray reader/DVD rewriter.

CAS: Antec Three Hundred Ultimate Gamer Case Black [+12]
CS_FAN: Default Case Fan
CPU: AMD Phenom™ II X4 955 Quad-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology ***Overclockable S&S only*** [+17]
CD: LG CH10LS20 10X BLU-RAY/HD-DVD Reader / DVD±R/±RW Writer [+60]
FAN: AMD ATHLON64 CERTIFIED CPU FAN & HEATSINK
HDD: Single Hard Drive (1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16M Cache 7200RPM Hard Drive [+34])
MOTHERBOARD: Asus M4A78LT-M LE AM3 DDR3 AMD 760G/SB710 Chipset DDR3 mATX w/ Integrated ATI Radeon 3000, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, USB2.0, SATA-II RAID, 1 Gen2 PCIe, 1 PCIe X1 & 2 PCI
MEMORY: 4GB (2x2GB) PC10666 DDR3/1333mhz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Value Select or Major Brand)
NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/1000 NETWORK CARD
OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
OS: Microsoft® Windows® 7 Home Premium (64-bit Edition)
POWERSUPPLY: 600 Watts Power Supplies
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
SPEAKERS: NONE
USB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
VIDEO: ATI Radeon HD 5770 PCI-E 16X 1GB DDR5 Video Card [+22]
WARRANTY: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 11 May 2010 at 19:48

Sparx · 12 May 2010 at 00:10

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I would look at the following parts:

AMD Phenom II X4 955BE ~ £136

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-244-AM

Gigabyte GA-770TA-UD3 ~ £81

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-242-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1481

Has a split 8+2 phase VRM,USB 3.0 and SATA 3.0!

OR

Gigabyte GA-MA770T-ES3 MA770 ~ £65

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-243-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1481

OCZ Obsidian 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 Dual Channel ~ £94

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-181-OC&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1517

Club 3D ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card ~ £120

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-014-C3

Samsung SH-B083L/RSBP 8x BluRay ROM / 16x DVD±RW Drive ~ £67

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CD-131-SA&groupid=701&catid=10&subcat=314

Zalman Z7 Plus Midi Tower Case ~ £43

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-033-ZA

Samsung F3 1TB ~ £58

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-082-SA

OCZ ModXStream Pro 600w Silent SLI Certified Modular Power Supply ~ £58

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-031-OC&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=

Windows 7 OEM ~ £77

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=SW-127-MS

The total comes to around £718 to £734 excluding delivery.

Needs mouse/keyboard/speakers.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 12 May 2010 at 00:15

Sparx said:
Needs mouse/keyboard/speakers.

DanielDeronda said:
I have now got another system for people to look at, it's a base unit only this time, as I have pretty much decided on my monitor, keyboard, mouse & speakers.

The OP only needs the base unit it seems.

Sparx · 12 May 2010 at 00:21

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
The OP only needs the base unit it seems.

Oh, I see - fair enough..

Here's my bash at it..!

DanielDeronda · 14 May 2010 at 17:41

As well as AMD based PCs, I have been looking at an Intel i-5 750 based PC with similar components to the AMD PC (4gb RAM, ATI Radeon HD5770 graphics card, 1TB Samsung F3 hard drive, 600W PSU, possible overclocking).

However I have a question on Intel motherboards, what is the difference between P55 & H55 motherboards (for the purposes of using it for an Intel i-5 750 PC). Is there any change in performance, as I can't see much difference in price.