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8800 gts?

Jihad said:
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It's only a 400w PSU and it's being pushed with this GTO card so definately upgrading when I get a Conroe/X2, would be mad not to :eek:
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id actually be interested to see how low the volt readings go on that psu soon as you load somthing very intensive up :D
 
Andy Pandy said:
well im going to get the gtx and a new psu for about a 100 because more wattage and stuff. Then later in year conroe ram mobo.
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Seems wrong way round to me. You won't see benefit of 8800 yet as aside from the fact your current system is a bottleneck, it'll be a few months before this card really comes into it's own. Surely would make more sense to buy conroe and mobo now (price drop for that won't be so great over next few months) and then buy 8800 when it drops a bit more, which it is sure to do in a few months. Just what I would do anyway. You'll see a distinct peformance increase if you do that and stick with your 7800GTX. But whatever you do, GET A NEW PSU before you do anything else!!
 
hmm i can spend about 500 max, so psu mobo ram and cpu all for 500?

heart is so set on a 8800 though, surely i must se some improvement, on some games i cant max the settings but if i had a 8800 i could i think?
 
Depends what kit you go for, but say you went for EVGA nForce 680 motherboard, Intel Core 2 DUO E6300 Retail, GeIL 1GB (2x512MB) PC5300 667MHz Value DDR2 RAM and a Hiper HPU-4K580-MK Type R 580W PSU, that would come in at just under £500 if you bought from OCUK. But you'd get it cheaper if you went elsewhere... ;)

edit: you'd see some improvement with an 8800, of course you would, but you'd see it with my suggestion as well, and possibly more so. You are underestimating the bottleneck of your current system and how important the other components are. The graphics card is just one element of it. It's not the only thing that counts. The 7800GTX is still a pretty powerful card you know, and with that CPU and mobo a lot more would be squeezed out of it than there is now. Plus you'd save more money!

Furthermore, I HIGHLY DOUBT you'd be able to max the settings simply by sticking an 8800 in your current system. In fact, I'd be flabbergasted if that was the case.
 
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kibble said:
Depends what kit you go for, but say you went for EVGA nForce 680 motherboard, Intel Core 2 DUO E6300 Retail, GeIL 1GB (2x512MB) PC5300 667MHz Value DDR2 RAM and a Hiper HPU-4K580-MK Type R 580W PSU, that would come in at just under £500 if you bought from OCUK. But you'd get it cheaper if you went elsewhere... ;)
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Or get a cheaper mobo (you only need a 680 if you're going SLi) such as a gigabyte DS3 or asus P5B, same CPU (good suggestion), double the memory (2GB for a proper games system) and maybe a seasonic PSU and you'll be in great shape.
 
think ive finally made my mind up. Gonna get the conroe e6600 bundle and get a good psu. Then later in year get a dx10 card of some sort :). -waves bye bye to numbers in bank account-


(then brain thinks hmm 8800 gts, much cheaper then option 1
-brain explodes-
 
Oh, I didn't realise 680 was only for SLI. Really? I thought it was designed for G80. Oh well, in that case great! Go with a cheaper one. And double the RAM and maybe spring for a decent cooler for the CPU so you can overclock. If you do all that I'm convinced you'll see a better performance increase than if you just buy an 8800.
 
Andy Pandy said:
(then brain thinks hmm 8800 gts, much cheaper then option 1 -brain explodes-
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Save your money and get a GTX. Far better future proofing, and I'm convinced that once the GTX really comes into it's own and games start to show what it can do, then the GTS is going to look like a bit of a lame duck.
 
Andy Pandy said:
think ive finally made my mind up. Gonna get the conroe e6600 bundle and get a good psu. Then later in year get a dx10 card of some sort :). -waves bye bye to numbers in bank account-


(then brain thinks hmm 8800 gts, much cheaper then option 1
-brain explodes-
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I'd hold off completely really, if I were in your situation...

If gaming is your top priority, spending that much on the conroe gear isn't going to make that much difference (certainly not as much as you''d rightfully expect considering the outlay) for games.

Encoding videos\audio, that sort of thing will increase dramatically, but your actual ability to run at higher frame rates with more eye candy on won't be that much higher, it will be better, but not what £400 or more? better.

But then buying any G80 card with your processor if that is its max overclock is a very bad idea too.

Better off waiting a few months and then selling the lot and getting a new setup from scratch, things will be cheaper then due to R600 being out, processors always get cheaper over time and so will the memory as they become more popular.
 
kibble said:
Oh, I didn't realise 680 was only for SLI. Really? I thought it was designed for G80. Oh well, in that case great! Go with a cheaper one. And double the RAM and maybe spring for a decent cooler for the CPU so you can overclock. If you do all that I'm convinced you'll see a better performance increase than if you just buy an 8800.
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so dont get bundle and just get a 8800 gtx ?
 
...Or...

Get a cheap conroe setup and overclock, not the 6600 ;)

Defo sort the PSU situation out, you can pick up a 500 watt one for less than £25, they're cheap for a reason mate!
 
i really dont know how to overclock, havent touched this 3500. But i would use easytune 5 if it would help. So say i got to 2.5 ghz 8800 good option?

Im only in college atm so this is a big decision lol. Id love to be able to spend 2 grand on a comp at the click of a button -dreams-

I think that ocing the cpu with easy tune just a wee bit, and getting a 8800 gtx is the most sensible decision in my mind. Then later when i have a job ill get conroe because getting conroe before 8800 isnt that much of an increase.
 
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Andy Pandy said:
so dont get bundle and just get a 8800 gtx ?
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The logic of this would be nuts. You won't be able to use it properly, and by the time you can, it will be cheaper. So you might as well take that cash difference and flush it down the toilet. Or give it to me and I'll go get ******.
 
You basically have 3 choices here;

1.) Buy 8800GTX or GTS. Stupid idea IMO, as outlined above. No matter what you do to your current system, it will NOT make as much difference as you want and hope. Waste of money IMHO, and if you are struggling student, I think this is pretty huge mistake mate. Price drop will be greater over the next few months on the 8800 than it will on any other component.

2.) Spend your £500 budget on a very respectable and pretty darn powerful CPU, RAM, Mobo and PSU setup which would work well with your 7800GTX. I'd argue with the point above saying you wouldn't see a justifiable performance increase as I really think you would. If that £500 is burning a whole in your pocket and you must spend it, I would do this.

3.) Wait. Save your money and wait until you can buy everything at the same time. It will be cheaper and you will get your money's worth. It means suffering a few months with your older setup, but if I were you this is what I would do. Hell, that's what I'm doing myself anyway! I've got a worse setup than you right now, but I'm biding my time until prices drop a bit before upgrading.
 
His 7800 GTX is most likely being constrained by his CPU/Mobo/RAM. That, plus the speed increase with a conroe CPU, faster mobo and RAM will be worth it, IMHO of course.
 
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