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8Pack APPROVED! SUPER fast SUPER STRONG sub £285 Skylake 4.5ghz Overclocked Gaming Bundle

Pretty confusing considering in the Skylake review thread it was said that Skylake performance increase was negligable and not worth it over x99, or words to that effect anyway.
 
Most games in existence? Sure...

Most AAA games coming out from today?

Not so much.

I think people should spend the extra on your 6400 system. It'll give you an overkill base that will last you a few GPU upgrades, thus saving you money in the long run and it will obviously destroy the i3 in games that make good use of 3-4 cores even before 2C 4T isnt enough anymore for 80% of games (though I personally think that time is now)
 
The conventional wisdom around these parts is that next year we'll actually start seeing some benefit from 6 and 8 core CPUs, gaming wise.

Now I'm not sure if that prediction will come true, but it does seem odd to be promoting dual core chips this late in the day, for anything more than media PCs.

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Most games are single core.
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Most non-browser games are now threaded to some extent. Saying they're "single core" is a very dubious claim.
 
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The conventional wisdom around these parts is that next year we'll actually start seeing some benefit from 6 and 8 core CPUs, gaming wise.
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I don't want to go off topic, but just wanted to say that Cannonlake is supposed to be getting 6-8 cores on the consumer mainstream CPU's when it comes around isn't it? I know it isn't coming until 2017, but if that's the case then more stuff could well start using more cores next year.
 
FoxEye said:
The conventional wisdom around these parts is that next year we'll actually start seeing some benefit from 6 and 8 core CPUs, gaming wise.

Now I'm not sure if that prediction will come true, but it does seem odd to be promoting dual core chips this late in the day, for anything more than media PCs.



Most non-browser games are now threaded to some extent. Saying they're "single core" is a very dubious claim.
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That conventional 'wisdom' is more like convential 'garbage'.

Under no circumstance will next year's games run better or need a hex/octa core CPU.

As 8 pack says, most games still use one core. Some use two. Some show a 1-5% performance benefit from 4 cores.

Skylake's single target performance is fantastic, I can see this bundle making many people happy :)
 
Perfect_Chaos said:
I don't want to go off topic, but just wanted to say that Cannonlake is supposed to be getting 6-8 cores on the consumer mainstream CPU's when it comes around isn't it? I know it isn't coming until 2017, but if that's the case then more stuff could well start using more cores next year.
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Currently on the mainstream we have Skylake. Next up is Kabylake, which is a Skylake refresh. Expect that mid/late 2016.

After that, Cannonlake, though don't expect it before late 2017/2018 - that's assuming it doesn't get delayed. Being a 10nm CPU, it most likely will be delayed. Just look at how many problems Intel had with 14nm.

I very much doubt Cannonlake will be a 6/8 core for mainstream, we've had no official information - just some rumours based on a Linkedin profile. Most likely it will be the usual Quad core part, that will be leaps and bounds ahead of AMD due to the insane process lead Intel command.
 
Dave2150 said:
That conventional 'wisdom' is more like convential 'garbage'.

Under no circumstance will next year's games run better or need a hex/octa core CPU.

As 8 pack says, most games still use one core. Some use two. Some show a 1-5% performance benefit from 4 cores.

Skylake's single target performance is fantastic, I can see this bundle making many people happy :)
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Both the PS4 and XOne have 8 slow cores. Game engines built to run well on these are going to need to be highly threaded, since single core performance on these consoles is so poor.

If you're building a PC tomorrow, are you telling me you're honestly going to put a dual core chip in it? Given that you'll have Windows services and other junk running at the same time?

Got any data to prove your claim that games don't benefit more than 5% from more than one core? It doesn't seem plausible at all.
 
That's a very nice looking bundle, as mentioned above though would be perfect if a reasonably priced itx board can get an OC bios now as well.
 
Is this the Celeron 300A of our time? :)

Would love to see how well it copes with racing simulators like iRacing, Assetto Corsa and DiRT Rally. I reckon it would probably work very well.
 
Great idea in theory but like others have said a lot of the new games are becoming better multi threaded so money is better off spent on a I5.

However this is a nice cheap alternative that paired with a GTX 960 or R380 will be a good little machine for gaming at 1080p medium settings and the whole thing will cost less than what I payed for just my I7 and motherboard
 
I will try crysis 3 ,bf4 and BioShock on Thursday.

I bet an OC skylake 2c4t with 980 is making great frames at 1080p. The power is all in the GPU providing the CPU is not bottlenecking at 4.5 core 4.5 cache with 2666 ddr4 this will be fine. Again as others have also pointed out only afew percent of games are using cores.
 
Tempted to build something with a Skylake i3 on the back of this, but TBH I'm not sure it's worth it from where I am.

If I was on a much older CPU then I might consider it with a decent board and RAM as a place holder until the 6700k becomes less ridiculously priced, although that is looking increasingly unlikely.
 
For u no need for gaming. But would be fun for ovreclocking and tweaking with maybe a small Inc in perf.
 
This bundle with basic 610gt GPU is pulling 71.3 Watts from the wall at idle and 115w from the wall at full load running Prime (No AVX version). SO very low power usage even with no Speed Step.
 
i'm still sitting on my Athlon 965be atm . I'm not gaming much on pc anymore ( read nothing lol ) but my pc is dying a lot the last 18 months , so a new purchase is a must soon. But i'm also using a 4k tv ....I don't intend gaming at 4k tho

Need abit more convincing to make me pull the trigger on this one in January when I get funds
 
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This bundle with basic 610gt GPU is pulling 71.3 Watts from the wall at idle and 115w from the wall at full load running Prime (No AVX version). SO very low power usage even with no Speed Step.
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Bit off topic Ian, but im curious to know. On your own personal oc'd systems, do you bother with stuff like speedstep, offset voltage etc? Myself i tend to go with fixed voltage, im guessing it makes very little difference in power consumption in the grand scheme of things.
 
Too bad the extra OC doesn't translate into actually meaningful gains for gaming. Still good to have the option but it doesn't do that much. As for games becoming more multi-threaded, yeah, people kept telling themselves that since the Q8200 days so that they wouldn't feel so guilty paying more for extra cores. Reality is things haven't much progressed since then, for obvious reasons, coding games to make better use of multiple threads costs a lot of moolah and that reality isn't going to change any time soon, certainly not until there's more widespread adoption of the big engines and they also are better supported (e.g. Unreal 4, etc.)
 
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