Poll: 9/11. A Poll.

Were the 9/11 attacks a result of ..

  • The US Government caught napping.

    Votes: 512 68.5%
  • A conspiracy by the US Government and others.

    Votes: 235 31.5%

  • Total voters
    747
Why many people don't seem to care enough to look at all the information and theories about not just 9/11 but things going on with powerful organisations (government, corporations etc) i don't know, i don't think many would have such an 'ignorance is bliss' attitude if they knew what has happened and might be coming in the future, i have to say from what i've seen there really does appear to be corrupt and probably evil forces at work behind the scenes but many things are in plain sight.
 
Can we have added to the poll,

"A very deadly terrorist attack, the american goverment were not to blame"

KaHn
 
rayb74 said:
The price of losing the Towers and 3,000 innocent people is small compared to what would happen to the U.S. if they had no oil or were held to ransom for it by the muslim (Arab) countries.
O.K. I don`t think it was "planned" by the U.S.A. I think that they turned a blind eye and were just waiting for any excuse to gain a significant military presence in an oil rich area of the world.

When are you people going to realise just how crippled the U.S.A. will be if starved of oil?
They have to protect/prolong their lifeline that is oil from the Middle East.
To be honest this is just the start of it.
As the major global oil fields (which are all incidentally past their peek production outputs) dry up other superpowers will start flexing their muscles - CHINA for example and conflicts around the globe will escalate.

Grim but I hope that I am totally wrong.
the place they attacked due to 9/11 was afghanistan AFAIK that place has no oil so i don't see why you are making this arguement
 
Radiation said:
Why many people don't seem to care enough to look at all the information and theories about not just 9/11 but things going on with powerful organisations (government, corporations etc) i don't know, i don't think many would have such an 'ignorance is bliss' attitude if they knew what has happened and might be coming in the future, i have to say from what i've seen there really does appear to be corrupt and probably evil forces at work behind the scenes but many things are in plain sight.
What amazes me is the amount of people who assume that people who don't believe the theories are doing so due to ignorance.
 
Posty said:
the place they attacked due to 9/11 was afghanistan AFAIK that place has no oil so i don't see why you are making this arguement
I believe that they would say that Afghanistan is but the first place they attacked as a result of 9/11.
 
Muban said:
What amazes me is the amount of people who assume that people who don't believe the theories are doing so due to ignorance.

I never suggested that, go read my post again if you didn't understand or manage to take it in its context.
 
Radiation said:
I never suggested that, go read my post again if you didn't understand or manage to take it in its context.
I don't need to read it again, nice wording of your response by the way, I apologise if my reply seemed to be rude in some way it wasn't meant to be. If that wasn't your intention fair enough, it's not how it came across to me. But then it can be easy to read posts in many different ways. The way that is worded it could be taken more than one way, only in my opinion of course.
 
Werent the US government warned about an impending large scale attack from Bin Laden/Al Qaeda? Or am i wrong?
 
dbappa said:
Werent the US government warned about an impending large scale attack from Bin Laden/Al Qaeda? Or am i wrong?
yes, in august 2001 i think but nothing implying plane hijacking and the WTC being a target
 
Muban said:
I don't need to read it again, nice wording of your response by the way, I apologise if my reply seemed to be rude in some way it wasn't meant to be. If that wasn't your intention fair enough, it's not how it came across to me. But then it can be easy to read posts in many different ways. The way that is worded it could be taken more than one way, only in my opinion of course.

Thats ok, its wasn't my intention to sound like that if it did, but there is an apathy in most people, myself included sometimes but not for the stuff that really seems to matter, sure many things are subjective but there is a mass of real information that suggests a worrying corruption in many linked organisations, i mean we see what the world is like today and where it could soon be heading and we must know its not right?
 
The government wouldnt do that much just to go to war. I dont entirely think that they were caught napping either.

IMO the terrorists had a well planned attack and kept quiet to everybody including family and friends. That is how the US government didnt know.
 
Radiation said:
I never suggested that, go read my post again if you didn't understand or manage to take it in its context.
It was more of a general statement, and to be honest I'm just as amazed as he is.

It seems that if you don't believe every word you hear in conspiracy theorist videos ("Loose Change" being a prime example) or on daft conspiracy theorist websites ("Scholars for 9/11 Truth", or whatever their name is, being a prime example) you are instantly branded a "sheep". Apparently it is not "hip" to believe what the government tell you these days, and it's the latest "craze" to jump from rooftop to rooftop shouting for the government to tell their people "the truth" behind events such as 9/11. At the end of the day, what do you expect them to tell you? They could release the 84 CCTV tapes of the Pentagon they are purported to have in their possession (although FBI officers have already said that only one contains footage of the plane), but conspiracy theorists would only say the images were photoshopped, or god-forbid they accept a plane hit the Pentagon that day, the plane will have been remote controlled by top-secret CIA operatives.

Why call for another inquiry into the events of 9/11 when there really is no need for one? I suppose you'd pull out the old "they didn't cover so many things in the original report", or "but there are so many unanswered questions" lines you have had rammed down your throats by conspiracy theorists. I challenge you to, using only official news sources (and even this is a grey area, as the incorrect BBC reports from 2001 claiming a number of the hijackers are still alive has been used and abused by conspiracy theorists in the past), citing all of your sources, ensuring all of your facts are accurate and making as few assumptions as possible, come up with a revelation shocking enough for me to jump over to the other side of the fence, start screaming for a new inquiry and handing out "Loose Change" DVDs at every opportunity. I dare you.
 
I think some people in power knew of the attack, and let it happen. You wouldn't need many people in the circle knowing about it to keep it secret. They can hand out orders and procedures that to the unknowing seem innocent but in reality help it along. Some actions seem more than a coincidence imo.

To those that are 100% with the Government, if you were a German citizen in the 40's would you believe rumours of Jewish death camps? afaik Hitler never stated just exactly what his "final solution" entailed.
 
Al Vallario said:

Read my last post if you missed it and do your own research or go by someone who has done a lot of research already, its hardly worth my time to do your challenge, im not going to make you believe if you don't see anything suspicious at all, the mass media has a fair bit of bs being controlled in a big way by just a few, rarely do we get good physical corroborating evidence for these terror plots and so on, the bigger picture is more than 9/11, start somewhere like www.infowars.com, still probably all the reports, documents and video evidence won't be enough for you to see that bad stuff is likely going on behind the scenes.
 
KaHn said:
Can we have added to the poll,

"A very deadly terrorist attack, the american goverment were not to blame"

KaHn
Really don't see the need. The US government were clearly to blame either way - either they colluded in it's inception, chose not to stop it (which I consider to be the same as the first option), or were too inept to stop it.

I voted inept. Their track record over recent years hasn't been particularly flattering (and neither has ours). Also, my view on conspiracy theorists should be well known by now - it's one of my few keyboard warrior tendencies (smacking them upside their heads - preferably using means pinched without credit from the game Dead Rising).
 
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