9/11; Never forget.

Pretty sure they were american ships with american crew. It would have been an attack on America wherever they were on this planet. I ship is sovereign territory.

Not the same.
That happened in Hawaii where 9/11 happened in America.
The attack also happened in peace time.
 
What point do you think he was making? As I understood his remarks, he seemed to have a problem with Brits apparently "caring more" about the 9/11 attacks than the 7/7 attacks. His reasoning seemed to be that Brits have an obligation to "care more" about the attacks that happened in our own country and killed our own citizens.

Because grief is not allowed to cross national borders, you know...

erm no its because its natural to care more for your own dead then the dead of others. 9/11 is given massive coverage compared to 7/7 although both are awful its kinda funny to see brits obsessed more with the yanks then our own.

too much media/propaganda nonsense thesedays anyway.
 
Are Britons not allowed to care about 9/11?

The 7/7 attacks were terrible, and I certainly do not mean to belittle the loss of those who lost loved ones in the attacks, but 9/11 was incontrovertibly on a different scale. Whether you measure it in loss of life, damage to property, political or diplomatic implications, the 9/11 attacks were in every way more significant, to Britons as well as Americans, than the 7/7 attacks.

Again I shall reiterate that more Britons were killed in 9/11 than the 7/7 attacks.

It's not about caring, its about caring more for one tragedy then the other especially when one is committed on our own soil in our capital city as a attack against us.

Politically it was the most significant event of the last 20 years for the whole world does that mean every country should place 9/11 as more significant then its own national tragedies?
 
Are Britons not allowed to care about 9/11?

The 7/7 attacks were terrible, and I certainly do not mean to belittle the loss of those who lost loved ones in the attacks, but 9/11 was incontrovertibly on a different scale. Whether you measure it in loss of life, damage to property, political or diplomatic implications, the 9/11 attacks were in every way more significant, to Britons as well as Americans, than the 7/7 attacks.

Again I shall reiterate that more Britons were killed in 9/11 than the 7/7 attacks.

Isn't about numbers, that's just petty.
 
So you don't think the media would be justified in dedicating more coverage to the genocide of a million people than to a single murder case? Numbers factor into the matter whether you like it or not.

The media rarely covers genocide and the mass loss of life quite like they do when a story that tugs at the heart strings where one or two people have died.

To paraphrase Stalin - One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic.
 
Absolutely. Why should we treat our own national tragedies as more significant than another tragedy that you readily admit was the "most significant event of the last 20 years for the whole world"?

The 9/11 attacks might have occurred on American soil, but their significance transcended national borders.

The same reason why we treat the death of our loves ones as more important then the deaths of our neighbours, etc. Called human nature. Care for your own first.
 
I wonder if you would feel differently if to pay us back they detonated a bomb in a built up area that mean you grew up without parents.

Why does it bother you so much that the Americans want their own memorial. Why have the chickens come home to roost for all those innocent Americans but not the "innocent people" who you say have died in the war on terror. Perhaps the chickens have come home to roost for those too?
Indeed, today I remembered September 11th 1973 when the democratically elected government of Salvador Allende was overthrown by a coup supported directly by the CIA and endorsed by the then President of the USA, Nixon.

The coup was led and won by President Pinochet, who in later life sought sanctuary in this country while he was being held to account for the 1000s of people who went "missing" on his watch.

A penny for your thoughts, I thought at least I should answer part of your question. :)
 
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Indeed, today I remembered September 11th 1973 when the democratically elected government of Salvador Allende was overthrown by a coup supported directly by the CIA and endorsed by the then President of the USA, Nixon.

The coup was led and won by President Pinochet, who in later life sought sanctuary in this country while he was being held to account for the 1000s of people who went "missing" on his watch.

A penny for your thoughts, I thought at least I should answer part of your question. :)

Can you not see that 3000 people dieing in the space of a few hours at the hands of a few terrorists is more shocking than a similar number of people being killed over a longer space of time by a corrupt government and its officials.

My 8 year old son wasn't alive when 9/11 happened. We've had stuff on the TV throughout the day and he's been asking about what happened. When we showed him the video of the jet crashing into the twin towers his mouth just dropped and he was in disbelief.

He's an 8 year old child, he's not caught up in America's self importance, but even he couldn't fail to spot just how shocking the events of that day were. The reason this was such a tragedy is more than about numbers.

People say why don't we mourn over the 7/7 bombings in the same way. And the answer is obvious, because somebody didn't crash two jets into the heart of the london financial district killing 3 thousand people. Only 58 people died on that day July 2005. Furthermore, it wasn't watched by half the world live on CCN when the 2nd plane crashed into the south tower.
 
If nothing else, the means by which it was done was incredible. To hijack multiple planes full of passengers with no care for their lives and to crash them into a massive building that symbolised so much to the Western world. It was pretty much unprecedented, and in terms of the chief end of terrorism - inspiring terror - it was enormously successful.
 
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The 9/11 attacks might have occurred on American soil, but their significance transcended national borders.

Who defines this 'significance'?

Is it something that has been manufactured and pushed down the throats of the entire Western world by governments and media?

Or is the most significant part of 9/11 how it heralded the beginning of a new era of neo-imperialism, restrictions on civil liberties, the advancement of the surveillance and monitoring of populations, the deaths of hundreds of thousands [arguably] for the sake of natural resources...

Think about it.
 
It seems to me that those trying to downplay the significance of 9/11 seem to be doing so with some political or ideological reasoning behind it rather than 9/11 actually being insignificant.

As a terrorist attack it was and is unprecedented. The fact that it was effectively played out live across the world also increases it's impact. Many people watched it happen.
 
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