9/11; Never forget.

erm no its because its natural to care more for your own dead then the dead of others. 9/11 is given massive coverage compared to 7/7 although both are awful its kinda funny to see brits obsessed more with the yanks then our own.

too much media/propaganda nonsense thesedays anyway.

You do know the were more Brits killed in 9/11 than 7/7 yeah? in addition to ~3000 other people. A small attack in London that the IRA could rivial is not as important on the world stage as 9/11, hell unless you live in London its not as important in the UK...
 
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If nothing else, the means by which it was done was incredible. To hijack multiple planes full of passengers with no care for their lives and to crash them into a massive building that symbolised so much to the Western world. It was pretty much unprecedented, and in terms of the chief end of terrorism - inspiring terror - it was enormously successful.

Only because NORAD were busy playing war games, on any other day they wouldn't have stood a chance.
 
Only because NORAD were busy playing war games, on any other day they wouldn't have stood a chance.

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Why would that of made any difference. They only had 4jets on standby on the eastern seaboard, they had no direct lines between agencies and trying to find 4 planes out of thousands, is like a needle in a haystack.
 
As I've said, there is no agreed definition. In any calculation, however, I would expect injury and loss of life to factor. An attack that kills 3,000 is more significant than one that kills 60, surely? Injury to other persons and detrimental effect on the lives of thousands of others, likewise.

You've got the economic cost and damage to property; the NY Times estimated the combined physical damage and economic impact to be around $180bn. An attack that sees entire skyscrapers destroyed is surely more significant than one that leaves a single window smashed?

Diplomatic and political implications would also factor. 9/11 arguably set the tone for the past decade of US diplomacy, led in one way or another to two large armed conflicts, inspired a new generation of radical muslims, etc.

Then there is the wider human impact. The fear, the anger, the hope. Everyone all over the world seems to remember what they were doing the day it happened. People now refer to 'before' and 'after' 9/11 like they are two different eras.

You get the picture. No matter what definition you are working with, the 9/11 attacks were more significant than the 7/7 attacks in every single way.

Your points are salient, but if human and economic costs are the biggest factors, surely there should be some sort of massive commemoration for the hundreds of thousands of innocent people who died as a result of US/UK bombing in Iraq/Afghanistan, as a direct result of 9/11? Seeing as there is not, and that these people are largely forgotten by-products of foreign policy, I think you can draw your own conclusions about who/what determines "significance".
 
9/11 is completely and utterly incomparable to the death of innocent civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan.

To be honest I don't give a ****.
All I know is that on 9/11 my life, my family and my friends were threatened and yes, that is what I thought because nobody knew what scale it was going to be on.
I don't mind admitting I was quite worried at the time and I fully backed us going into Afghanistan.
 
To be honest I don't give a ****.
All I know is that on 9/11 my life, my family and my friends were threatened and yes, that is what I thought because nobody knew what scale it was going to be on.
I don't mind admitting I was quite worried at the time and I fully backed us going into Afghanistan.

I didn't feel threatned at all, felt the chances it getting repeated on the same scale would be extremely slim to none.
I wasn't really happy about us going into Afghanistan but wasn't too bothered.

My mind has changed a bit about Afghanistan though after watching x amount of documentries about Afghanistan and the taliban scum.
 
I didn't feel threatned at all, felt the chances it getting repeated on the same scale would be extremely slim to none.

It wasn't that.
I live in a city with a large Muslim population and I worked at a factory where everybody was racist (both ways) so the 2 didn't mix.
It took a while before we could trust our Muslim brothers.
 
It wasn't that.
I live in a city with a large Muslim population and I worked at a factory where everybody was racist (both ways) so the 2 didn't mix.
It took a while before we could trust our Muslim brothers.

Yes everyone seems to forget Islam was not particularly hated before 9/11. Nor were the two Muslim countries invaded, that many seem to be crying about.

So i think its fair to say Bin Laden and his buddies made a bit of a 'pigs ear' out of the whole situation, didn't they? Just as well, he spent his last 10yrs, on the run, with a good bunch of his buddies being treated to a daisy cutter for breakfast, as will the remaining bunch of bearded buffoons that also happen to be on the run.

They're comming for ya !

Kaboom.
 
Yes everyone seems to forget Islam was not particularly hated before 9/11. Nor were the two Muslim countries invaded, that many seem to be crying about.

So i think its fair to say Bin Laden and his buddies made a bit of a 'pigs ear' out of the whole situation, didn't they? Just as well, he spent his last 10yrs, on the run, with a good bunch of his buddies being treated to a daisy cutter for breakfast, as will the remaining bunch of bearded buffoons that also happen to be on the run.

They're comming for ya !

Kaboom.

You are WRONG! Islam has been fairly hated since the Plalestinians got ****ed of at the founding of israel 1950 ish
 
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