9/11

I don't get the thing of comparing events like this, attacks on the twin towers compared to the blitz....

Be real.

Any attack in the world which only aims to take innocent civilians is hideous and it's a true shame that these types of events happen.

Obviously the reaction was the whole afghanistan conflict, 9years and it looks like there is no real end in sight. How did this whole problem start, ideology, religion etc..... This can probably go on forever
 
Castiel said:
You seem to be having a largely non-personal response to 9/11 rather than a personal emotional one. I think many people may be confusing the two. Like I said I understand feeling anger at the act on an intellectual level, but not on a personal one, for those not directly involved of course.
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You said........

"Much like Diana's death, I dont really understand people who have no direct connection to the attrocity who have an overt emotional response to it."

Is Overt the key word here ?

All I'm saying is that the act of baring witness thats all.

Anyhow I'm not the Sharpest Knife in the Drawer so maybe you could indulge me and properly Define "Anger on an intellectual level" ?

I mean I didnt sit down and say to myself these events that I am looking at should make me feel angry therefore I am angry.

I just felt angry.
 
Maybe if the planes were Iranian the Septics would've shot them down a la Iran Air flight 655 :rolleyes:

RIP to all who were affected.
 
RedDanDoc said:
You said........

"Much like Diana's death, I dont really understand people who have no direct connection to the attrocity who have an overt emotional response to it."

Is Overt the key word here ?

All I'm saying is that the act of baring witness thats all.

Anyhow I'm not the Sharpest Knife in the Drawer so maybe you could indulge me and properly Define "Anger on an intellectual level" ?

I mean I didnt sit down and say to myself these events that I am looking at should make me feel angry therefore I am angry.

I just felt angry.
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It's about objective anger against emotional anger I suppose. You didn't have a crying fit or the physical manifestations of anger, such as aggression or vengeance. Thus is what I mean by an intellectual response. You felt anger at the act, not because of any personal loss or effect on you personally, yet some as seen in the aftermath of Diana that is not always the case.
 
Castiel said:
It's about objective anger against emotional anger I suppose. You didn't have a crying fit or the physical manifestations of anger, such as aggression or vengeance. Thus is what I mean by an intellectual response. You felt anger at the act, not because of any personal loss or effect on you personally, yet some as seen in the aftermath of Diana that is not always the case.
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I had a personal emotional response but probably because I was stood on-top of em on September 10th (flew home that night)..!!

RIP to all..

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For those who were an adult age when this happened what effect did it have on you?
I can understand if you were still at school the conversation would go something like this -
"Two planes have crashed into the Twin Towers"
"Cool, where are my football boots?"
"But it is the Muslims who have done it"
"Cool, have we got any crisps"

I can distinctly remember where I was when it happened and the impact it had on the workforce.
There was a sense of panic that we would all be going to war and even if we were too old, we would lose our jobs because nobody would be interested in our products anymore.
It took a while before we settled down and realised it wasn't a whole religion/people against us but a few nutters.
 
dmpoole said:
For those who were an adult age when this happened what effect did it have on you?
I can understand if you were still at school the conversation would go something like this -
"Two planes have crashed into the Twin Towers"
"Cool, where are my football boots?"
"But it is the Muslims who have done it"
"Cool, have we got any crisps"

I can distinctly remember where I was when it happened and the impact it had on the workforce.
There was a sense of panic that we would all be going to war and even if we were too old, we would lose our jobs because nobody would be interested in our products anymore.
It took a while before we settled down and realised it wasn't a whole religion/people against us but a few nutters.
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I don't recall it like that at all and I went to War a few months later. Tbh it wasn't a big deal, just another terrorist attack. I don't think most people had any sort of apocalyptic vision as you describe. I think most people outside of the US probably had a similar reaction to those children you describe, or initial shock and then back to the normal routine. Unfortunately most people were probably more concerned about the latest plot-lines in EastEnders
 
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Robboftw said:
You dodged a bullet there ManCuBuS :eek:
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He did but i also have fond memories of the twin towers myself as when i was a kid living in Canada, we used to go to NYC to visit my mums uncle and he always used to take us up there. So seeing them collapse was a shock to the system and seeing as i was working in London at the time of the attacks, remember it vividly being reported on the TV screens...i then remember that we were told to pack up our stuff as they were closing London down for the time being...it was absolute chaos tryingt o get home that day.

Still got the photos somewhere of us being up there.
 
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Robboftw said:
You dodged a bullet there ManCuBuS :eek:
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Well not really as it didn't open to tourist until 10:00am and both planes had hit by 9:05am but I'm glad I wasn't in the city when it happened.

There was a lovely little old lady who had been an elevator attendant there since the towers had first opened, she was really happy and seemed to have time for everyone while going up & down in those things all day long.

We spent a good 15 mins just chatting the world away with her and she told us she had 3 months left to retirement and was looking forward to spending some time with her 9 Grandchildren.

Didn't know until a few months after, that she had died in the attacks.
 
ManCuBuS said:
Well not really as it didn't open to tourist until 10:00am and both planes had hit by 9:05am but I'm glad I wasn't in the city when it happened.

There was a lovely little old lady who had been an elevator attendant there since the towers had first opened, she was really happy and seemed to have time for everyone while going up & down in those things all day long.

We spent a good 15 mins just chatting the world away with her and she told us she had 3 months left to retirement and was looking forward to spending some time with her 9 Grandchildren.

Didn't know until a few months after, that she had died in the attacks.
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It is understandable to have a reaction to something you had a personal connection to, but that was not what I was referring to earlier. I in no way meant to disparage those who do have a connection to the tragedy or their reaction to it.
 
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I remember Sept 11 like it was yesterday. I came home from school about half 3, and I remember sitting in class around half 2, and thinking today seems weird. I got home put on BBC1 expecting to watch Arthur. And lo behold, it was on the news, I didn't know what to think.

I just seen Osama's picture and terrorist attacks written all over the screen. It was a very sad day, just so shocking.
 
I was in year 9 when it happened, sat in double technology. I remember the teachers sort of mentioning stuff but sounded like no one knew exactly what was going on. I was hearing things on the way back home, things like New York has been bombed, America are under attack so I was rushing home to see what the was going on.

Got in the house at like 4 and didnt stop watching the TV all night, couldn't comprehend it, it just seemed like watching a film.

I didn't exactly go "wow, where's the crisps?" I was old enough to realise that it could hit the fan after something like this.
 
It happened before I lived over here. I remember I was typing an e-mail to a friend and my mum came in and said a plane had crashed into a tower in America and it was all over the news. In my mind I saw a small private plane crashing into a radio tower or something like that......but I thought it was odd she would even mention it.....and why was it all over the news? I went into my room and turned the TV on - the first tower collapsed a few mins later. I remember my main thought was "OMG the US is going to nuke somebody over this!" :eek: You have to remember that the US had never seen anything like that before on their own land. We went through the blitz - and I think 99% of Americans don't even know what that was.

Everything that's happened since 9/11......not really the thread to get into that.
 
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