97.19 - VISTA (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

gizmoy2k · 21 Nov 2006 at 10:11

So how do you prove directx 10 works when drivers are released?

You need a directx10 app/game to benchmark against?

NightSt@lk3r · 21 Nov 2006 at 10:13

gizmoy2k said:
So how do you prove directx 10 works when drivers are released?

You need a directx10 app/game to benchmark against?

Flight Simulator X

SimonMaltby · 21 Nov 2006 at 10:21

NightSt@lk3r said:
Flight Simulator X

8800 is DX10 card. Vista is the only DX10 OS. Cant run FS X on Vista with 8800 cos no drivers. = No proof.

Running FS X on win XP is runnuing it in DX9 not DX10

gizmoy2k · 21 Nov 2006 at 10:23

fair enough...

not a fan of FSX so dint know it was DX 10, Still a bit much to send it back though, best things come to those who wait

NightSt@lk3r · 21 Nov 2006 at 10:25

SimonMaltby said:
8800 is DX10 card. Vista is the only DX10 OS. Cant run FS X on Vista with 8800 cos no drivers. = No proof.

Running FS X on win XP is runnuing it in DX9 not DX10

we are talking about if there was drivers for the 8800's that supported DX10

SimonMaltby · 21 Nov 2006 at 10:25

gizmoy2k said:
fair enough...

not a fan of FSX so dint know it was DX 10, Still a bit much to send it back though, best things come to those who wait

Yes... but i cant do what i brought the card for. The cards are being miss sold big time. Sold as DX10, but you cant use DX10.... we only have Nvidia's word that it is DX10??? Now I for one dont trust a big corporporation like Nvidia unless they prove it by releasing drivers.

NightSt@lk3r · 21 Nov 2006 at 10:26

SimonMaltby said:
Yes... but i cant do what i brought the card for. The cards are being miss sold big time. Sold as DX10, but you cant use DX10.... we only have Nvidia's word that it is DX10??? Now I for one dont trust a big corporporation like Nvidia unless they prove it by releasing drivers.

it was pretty obvious that you wouldnt be able to use DX10 on them till Jan next year when you bought it

SimonMaltby · 21 Nov 2006 at 10:28

NightSt@lk3r said:
it was pretty obvious that you wouldnt be able to use DX10 on them till Jan next year when you bought it

Not at all. A card sold as DX10 must have drivers for Vista full stop. Loads of people have been caught out here

NightSt@lk3r · 21 Nov 2006 at 10:29

SimonMaltby said:
Not at all. A card sold as DX10 must have drivers for Vista full stop. Loads of people have been caught out here

its sold as DX10 ready, and nvidia arnt obliged to release vista drivers untill vista is released

SimonMaltby · 21 Nov 2006 at 10:31

fraid not

"featuring the world's first DirectX® 10 GPU " not DX10 ready

The Asgard · 21 Nov 2006 at 10:32

NightSt@lk3r said:
its sold as DX10 ready, and nvidia arnt obliged to release vista drivers untill vista is released

It was released to Developers/Others Friday. Being an MSDN developer thats how I recieved mine. Its a poor showing on Nvidia's part. Great product let down by none existent drivers.

NightSt@lk3r · 21 Nov 2006 at 10:35

SimonMaltby said:
fraid not

"featuring the world's first DirectX® 10 GPU " not DX10 ready

so when you bought it you thought you would be able to use DX10 strait away even with no DX10 OS, i like how your putting all the blame on Nvidia yet there not the ones who have repeatedly delayed Vista and DX10

SimonMaltby · 21 Nov 2006 at 10:37

NightSt@lk3r said:
so when you bought it you thought you would be able to use DX10 strait away even with no DX10 OS, i like how your putting all the blame on Nvidia yet there not the ones who have repeatedly delayed Vista and DX10

Its the way they sold it. I beleved and if you read the adverts it tells you that it would run. I would not have brought it now if I did not think it would run on Vista

The Asgard · 21 Nov 2006 at 10:41

NightSt@lk3r said:
so when you bought it you thought you would be able to use DX10 strait away even with no DX10 OS, i like how your putting all the blame on Nvidia yet there not the ones who have repeatedly delayed Vista and DX10

There is a DX10 OS, lol.

NightSt@lk3r · 21 Nov 2006 at 10:42

SimonMaltby said:
Its the way they sold it. I beleved and if you read the adverts it tells you that it would run. I would not have brought it now if I did not think it would run on Vista

send it back and get a refund then, i pursonaly would have never bought it in the first place because i know that DX10 isnt useable untill January next year

NightSt@lk3r · 21 Nov 2006 at 10:42

The Asgard said:
There is a DX10 OS, lol.

yes i know there is i have been running it for a few days and am quite impressed but it is not publicly released

The Asgard · 21 Nov 2006 at 10:46

NightSt@lk3r said:
yes i know there is i have been running it for a few days and am quite impressed but it is not publicly released

Still doesn't change the fact that it is available and there is no support.

SimonMaltby · 21 Nov 2006 at 10:49

The other thing that gets me is that Nvidia produce the drivers, but will not let you contact them. They insist you contact the Card manufacturer, but they cant do anything.... Nvidia have the customer tied up in knots and offer zero support.

NightSt@lk3r · 21 Nov 2006 at 10:53

give these a try and see what happens? http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=514607

SimonMaltby · 21 Nov 2006 at 10:54

I would like to quote:

The description on the site I brought the card from
"Software Included NVIDIA ForceWare Drivers
Operating System Requirements Windows XP, Vista"

Nvidia's 8800 product page:
"With a revolutionary unified architecture and full support for Microsoft® DirectX® 10 games"

Both lies and proving that the product is being miss sold