9700XT constantly crashing

[ak22]

Nothing but issues snice getting 9700XT Sapphire my games crash a lot, I also get AMD Software Detected a drive timeout. I have updated my bios and GPU drivers usings DDU.
Im not sure what to do my 3060ti ran flawlessly.

PC spes
5800x3D
9700XT Sapphire Pulse (Default settings)
32 GB DDR4 3200mhz (4X 8GB) Corsair Vengeance LPX
MSI B450 Tomahawk Max
Gold Seaonic Foucs GX-650 PSU

Well Air cooled PC

 

[Tinek]

Nothing but issues snice getting 9700XT Sapphire my games crash a lot, I also get AMD Software Detected a drive timeout. I have updated my bios and GPU drivers usings DDU.
Im not sure what to do my 3060ti ran flawlessly.

PC spes
5800x3D
9700xt
32 GB DDR4 3200mhz
MSI B450 Tomahawk Max

Step number one should be to test your ram and CPU stability, as that's usually what cause driver crashes - with faster GPU you put much more stress on these components now. Download free occt software and run tests it provides (min. 20 minus for each test - ram, CPU, PSU, then vram and GPU). Then you might have better idea what actually is the problem here. Otherwise you can be only guessing.

 

[Gray2233]

What is the exact make and model of your power supply?

 

[tamzzy]

What is the exact make and model of your power supply?

this first

Step number one should be to test your ram and CPU stability,

then this

then the last part is to downclock the GPU (core/vram clocks)
i've had a 6600xt that worked fine for a while until it became unstable with driver crashes...turns out the silicon "wore out" and would only run stably at reduced clocks

 

[Tetras]

Nothing but issues snice getting 9700XT Sapphire my games crash a lot, I also get AMD Software Detected a drive timeout. I have updated my bios and GPU drivers usings DDU.

You could try a driver only install.

By "crash", what do you mean exactly? Crash to desktop?

What monitor are you using?

 

[opethdisciple]

I got this from copilot:

The AMD RX 9700 XT consumes significantly more power than the NVIDIA RTX 3060 Ti. The RX 9700 XT can draw up to 500W during gaming, with peaks reaching over 1000W, while the RTX 3060 Ti has a maximum power draw of 200W.

What This Means for Your Build
If you're considering the RX 9700 XT, you’ll need:

A high-capacity PSU (1000W or more).

Robust cooling and airflow.

A case that supports large GPUs and high thermal output.

For the RTX 3060 Ti:

A 600W PSU is sufficient.

Easier integration into compact or budget builds.

MSI article on power requirements.

 

[Tinek]

I got this from copilot:
(...)
If you're considering the RX 9700 XT, you’ll need:

A high-capacity PSU (1000W or more).

That's an overkill, I'm driving comfortably RTX 4090 with R9 7950x3D and 64GB RAM (4 modules) 100% stable, with a nice headroom of power on 850W Corsair PSU. But for me stability beats everything else, hence I don't undervolt anything (as that was always unstable in something under stress, over time) and don't over clock anything anymore, aside enabling expo settings. Then 12h of various stability tests (variable ones usually from occt to be sure transients aren't a problem either) gave me 100% stability and only then I know hardware is for sure ok and any instability happening are just software bugs (Windows and other programs are full of these ). By the way, my machine is running expo 6200MT on 4 RAM 16GB modules with 0 issues - which hasn't been possible a year ago, but AGESA fixes finally made it possible.

 

[ak22]

What is the exact make and model of your power supply?

I suspect this might be the issue as i have Gold Seaonic foucs GX-650 , I can play games for hours and its ok not issues. Other times I get a lot crashes a lot, for example i started playing a new game RV thier yet and it constanly crashing to desktop 4-5 times less than an hour played.

Step number one should be to test your ram and CPU stability, as that's usually what cause driver crashes - with faster GPU you put much more stress on these components now. Download free occt software and run tests it provides (min. 20 minus for each test - ram, CPU, PSU, then vram and GPU). Then you might have better idea what actually is the problem here. Otherwise you can be only guessing.

I will try this thank you.

You could try a driver only install.

By "crash", what do you mean exactly? Crash to desktop?

What monitor are you using?

I have just installed driver only, not tested anything yet. I have 180hz 1440p Asus ROG something....

Mostly crash to deskop the game closes. I have had some blue screen crashes.

 

[Gray2233]

I got this from copilot:

The AMD RX 9700 XT consumes significantly more power than the NVIDIA RTX 3060 Ti. The RX 9700 XT can draw up to 500W during gaming, with peaks reaching over 1000W, while the RTX 3060 Ti has a maximum power draw of 200W.

What This Means for Your Build
If you're considering the RX 9700 XT, you’ll need:

A high-capacity PSU (1000W or more).

Robust cooling and airflow.

A case that supports large GPUs and high thermal output.

For the RTX 3060 Ti:

A 600W PSU is sufficient.

Easier integration into compact or budget builds.

MSI article on power requirements.

This is why people shouldn't blindly use AI.

SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 9070 XT NITRO+ review (Page 5)

We review the SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 9070 XT NITRO+, this model has drawn significant attention among tech gurus for its technical design and distinctive features. The card’s design includes a mesh while concealing the power connector behind a removable backplate. This is the first Radeon from...

www.guru3d.com

Average gaming loads of 350w with peaks of 382, a good 650w PSU should technically run a 9070XT but transients could be a problem, fortunately the cards undervolt pretty well so I'd not be super concerned with running one on that sort of supply. That said, if I was building a 9070XT based system I'd opt for a 750w or higher unit at a minimum.

 

[welshrat]

650w power supply would be my first port of call. the 9070XT can draw 330W and more so I suspect you are on the limit.

 

[ak22]

650w power supply would be my first port of call. the 9070XT can draw 330W and more so I suspect you are on the limit.

Would the game crash or would the PC crash when it hits the limit? I ran Heaven many times and had no issues

 

[welshrat]

Would the game crash or would the PC crash when it hits the limit? I ran Heaven many times and had no issues

Driver timeouts would likely occur as the transient peaks are hit, Heaven probably doesn't pull as much wattage as you are only stressing the GPU, when you are gaming other components will be pulling more watts as well. I mean I can't rule out a broken card but I wouldn't be running a 9070XT with 650Watts. Can you try under volting and downclocking a little as that will give you some indication.

For what its worth I had similar issues with my old VEGA 56 and a 630watt PSU, issue resolved when I replaced it with a 750W one. Currently running a 1000W PSU with my 9070XT and prior to that a 7900GRE, never had any driver timeouts

 

[ak22]

Step number one should be to test your ram and CPU stability, as that's usually what cause driver crashes - with faster GPU you put much more stress on these components now. Download free occt software and run tests it provides (min. 20 minus for each test - ram, CPU, PSU, then vram and GPU). Then you might have better idea what actually is the problem here. Otherwise you can be on

Using OCCT Software
CPU test ran for 20 mins all ok.
Memory test found errors 10 seconds in.... I will try memtest86 i guess? i can't seem to see more information on occt?
3d Adaptive test failed "crash code -1"

 

[Tinek]

This is why people shouldn't blindly use AI.

Current AI NL models are mostly just a fancy search engine really. Ergo, whatever it spits out is a common opinion online usually. I'd blame users blabbering rubbish, not the search engine.

 

[Tinek]

Would the game crash or would the PC crash when it hits the limit? I ran Heaven many times and had no issues

The issue with PSUs is that still many of them (especially older models) don't handle transient power use spikes well - though that usually results in PC shutting down randomly, as transient spikes often trigger safeguards in the PSU. I've seen that happen in my buddie's machine - 650W PSU was more than enough for his average power use, but transient spikes in random places caused his PSU to just shut off randomly. I've never seen it cause instability, though. Bad PSU (it can be good brand but just old and capacitors going bad etc. over time) can provide bad power - unstable voltages, too slow reaction time to changing power needs etc. - and that can cause errors not just in GPU but also CPU, RAM etc. Effect would be random crashes, BSOD etc. This is why OCCT has dynamic tests now, where it varies load during the test on various components as just 100% load (stress test) is not good enough to confirm stability. Some of their tests are locked behind a paywall though, sadly.

 

[Tinek]

Using OCCT Software
CPU test ran for 20 mins all ok.
Memory test found errors 10 seconds in.... I will try memtest86 i guess? i can't seem to see more information on occt?
3d Adaptive test failed "crash code -1"

Yeah, it runs similar tests to memtest, but that likely is your culprit. Are your RAM modules on the compatibility list of your motherboard's vendor? Voltage etc. settings all set up ok?

 

[ak22]

Yes it is I had them for years I haven't overclocked them. They are all the same modules.

 

[tamzzy]

remove xmp/reset bios to stock

 

[Tinek]

Yes it is I had them for years I haven't overclocked them. They are all the same modules.

RAM doesn't often go from good to bad, but it can happen. Sometimes it's not even RAM but memory controller or motherboard having trouble. You can try them on stock non-XMP settings, see how they behave.

 

[GuruJockStrap]

I have my 9070XT Pulse connected to a Corsair TX-M 80 Gold 650w that must 6 years old now and it’s rock solid.

Did have crashes during gameplay but that was due to an undervolt that I though was stable but wasn’t.