980 with 8GB ?

Marine-RX179 · 13 Oct 2014 at 10:35

Dicehunter said:
Won't stop them from milking

You bet. I don't think I'm the only one remember the £400+/- GTX770 4GB

Davedree · 13 Oct 2014 at 10:41

Kaapstad said:
Where your comment falls down is the original Titan has turned out to be fantastic value for money. After nearly 2 years of use it is still the go to card for 4K. Crysis 3 maxed @4K looks fantastic on 4 Titans unfortunately the newer AMD and NVidia cards can not even run it at those settings.

I will be very happy to spend the same again to get another 2 years plus use out of the Maxwell Titans and not have to worry about the expense of having to upgrade every 6 months.

With the Titans you get what you pay for and that turned out to be quite a lot in the long run.

How about the 8gb 290's over the 4gb, or is it not the lack of memory in crysis 3 @ 4k,

Kaapstad · 13 Oct 2014 at 10:47

Davedree said:
How about the 8gb 290's over the 4gb, or is it not the lack of memory in crysis 3 @ 4k,

If you could get 4 x 8gb 290Xs on a mobo Crysis 3 would run great @4K, unfortunately with the 4gb versions the average fps are good enough but it is a terrible stuttering mess due to lack of VRAM.

The 290Xs are actually a little faster than 4 Titans running Crysis 3 maxed @4K but the NVidia cards are very smooth and very playable.

Unfortunately Sapphire only made 250 8gb cards before AMD put a stop to it.

Simon Belmont · 13 Oct 2014 at 10:55

Kaapstad said:
Unfortunately Sapphire only made 250 8gb cards before AMD put a stop to it.

AMD didn't try hard enough. Their still on sale here.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-353-SP&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1752

Silent_Scone · 13 Oct 2014 at 11:00

Or it proves people don't want them. I was given one by AMD!

4 left in the world and they couldn't clear them on clearance a few weeks ago. EK only recently released a block for the Vapor range, and the coolers are 3 slot. sapphire set themselves up to fail with this card frankly.

Also, they're binned but I can't imagine very high, as no Vapor-X that I've seen overclocks very well.

Good luck trying to fit 3 let alone 4

Davedree · 13 Oct 2014 at 11:18

Thanks kaap, that's why I wouldn't be tempted in buying a 295, due to the 4gb of ram.
Considering the w9100 has 16gb, the w8100 8gb, the at the time £1000+ card should have had 8gb per gpu.
The value of the 290x 8gb was always poor considering a few memory chips were added and unless you were at some funky eyefinity, or extreme resolution then the cheaper 4 giggers made more sense.

I find it funny how the mobile Maxwell provides performance pretty close to the desktop cards, and wiith lower clocked but greater capacity memory.
The gtx 970m 192 bit at 3/6 gb memory,
Or the gtx 980m 256 bit at 4/8 gb memory.

Wonder what the nvidia tax is on the m versions?

Dicehunter · 13 Oct 2014 at 11:22

Kaapstad said:
If you could get 4 x 8gb 290Xs on a mobo Crysis 3 would run great @4K, unfortunately with the 4gb versions the average fps are good enough but it is a terrible stuttering mess due to lack of VRAM.

The 290Xs are actually a little faster than 4 Titans running Crysis 3 maxed @4K but the NVidia cards are very smooth and very playable.

Unfortunately Sapphire only made 250 8gb cards before AMD put a stop to it.

I was honestly considering buying the 8GB Sapphire today but went for the DCU2 980 just a few minutes ago instead for the better power/heat plus I only play at 1080 so 8GB would be overkill.

Could you imagine if Sapphire made them single/duel slot cards with better OC room ? 4 x of those babies would be the shizznitz !

Kaapstad · 13 Oct 2014 at 11:28

Dicehunter said:
I was honestly considering buying the 8GB Sapphire today but went for the DCU2 980 just a few minutes ago instead for the better power/heat plus I only play at 1080 so 8GB would be overkill.

Will you be posting on the bench threads, those 980s are quick.

Dicehunter · 13 Oct 2014 at 11:32

Kaapstad said:
Will you be posting on the bench threads, those 980s are quick.

I'll do a few Firestrikes or maybe wait for the new patch to be released for Firestrike and possibly valley, Hell I'll set tomorrow aside for benching but straight after I'm going out to party

The 980 I have now is actually my brothers but he's away for a few days so I stole it from his rig, His Strix does 1500 and 1900 on the memory, Hopefully mine will be able to match it or slightly exceed it

opethdisciple · 13 Oct 2014 at 11:40

Problem is here, I don't believe that there are no 8gb cards on the horizon.

1. The latest games can already take advantage of more than 4Gb of Vram.

2. Unless Nvidia have abandoned Titan cards, they wouldn’t release a 6Gb Titan, when the mainstream cards already have 4Gb.

Dicehunter · 13 Oct 2014 at 11:44

opethdisciple said:
Problem is here, I don't believe that there are no 8gb cards on the horizon.

1. The latest games can already take advantage of more than 4Gb of Vram.

2. Unless Nvidia have abandoned Titan cards, they wouldn’t release a 6Gb Titan, when the mainstream cards already have 4Gb.

My bet is on either 8GB or possibly 12GB depending on the size of the bus.

Silent_Scone · 13 Oct 2014 at 11:45

Next year. You never put all your eggs in one basket. They can make light bulbs that probably last for 50 years but people aren't a fan of commercial suicide

GM200 will most likely appear on a 384bit bus which would mean continuation of 6gb Titan. GDDR5 isn't as cheap as some people seem to think.

Simon Belmont · 13 Oct 2014 at 11:48

Didn't nvidia say that the next Titan would not be called Titan? I think there looking at a new name

triss · 13 Oct 2014 at 11:59

I cant see the next titan only having 6gb Vram, i think the next flagships for both camps will be over 4gb and the Titan will have to be higher again to retain its ideals

Silent_Scone · 13 Oct 2014 at 12:11

Wouldn't surprise me if AMD went with 4GB again but time will tell

Quartz · 13 Oct 2014 at 13:34

Gibbo said:
No staff member knows more than me or 8 Pack, we both work directly with the manufacturers and right now none of them have plans for an 8GB card. This could change at any time but right now no 8GB is planned.

That's a pity as tests on assorted sites have clearly shown that 4K gaming at ultra quality requires more than 4 GB VRAM to avoid stuttering. I was particularly enthused by the low power requirements of the 970 and 980 as I could run two without changing my PSU, and if they were available in 6 or 8 GB versions and worked in SLI on PCIe3 x4 + x4 then I might well have bitten.

But I get decent performance and quality at 4K so I'm happy to wait.

Dicehunter · 13 Oct 2014 at 13:50

Quartz said:
That's a pity as tests on assorted sites have clearly shown that 4K gaming at ultra quality requires more than 4 GB VRAM to avoid stuttering. I was particularly enthused by the low power requirements of the 970 and 980 as I could run two without changing my PSU, and if they were available in 6 or 8 GB versions and worked in SLI on PCIe3 x4 + x4 then I might well have bitten.

But I get decent performance and quality at 4K so I'm happy to wait.

Well I know for a fact there was definitely a staff member who said "4GB and 8GB cards incoming" around the launch of the 900 series, Weather this was a miss type or not I don't know but I know what I read.

Mr Badger · 13 Oct 2014 at 15:32

Dicehunter said:
Well I know for a fact there was definitely a staff member who said "4GB and 8GB cards incoming" around the launch of the 900 series, Weather this was a miss type or not I don't know but I know what I read.

Quality

How accurate were all those predictions about the GTX 790?

Simon Belmont · 15 Oct 2014 at 12:58

Hope we hear about 8gb cards soon? even a dual card would rock

rtho782 · 15 Oct 2014 at 18:40

Quartz said:
That's a pity as tests on assorted sites have clearly shown that 4K gaming at ultra quality requires more than 4 GB VRAM to avoid stuttering. I was particularly enthused by the low power requirements of the 970 and 980 as I could run two without changing my PSU, and if they were available in 6 or 8 GB versions and worked in SLI on PCIe3 x4 + x4 then I might well have bitten.

But I get decent performance and quality at 4K so I'm happy to wait.

I don't think SLI on your 460W PSU would be a good idea.

Here is my (non overclocked GPU) reading from my PSU during firestrike ultra combined test:

http://imgur.com/hgwiO49

432W out is worryingly close to the 456W on 12V your PSU can put out.

You also won't see an nVidia card working in SLi on x4/x4. The SLi bridge is supposed to provide 1GB/s bandwidth, they don't expose APIs to see exactly what's happening but the leading theory is that the SLi bridge is used for low latency synchronisation data and there is still lots of data pushed over the PCIe bus. For this reason, nVidia will not allow SLi on x4. That's why the z97 boards that support 3 way crossfire (x8x8x4) don't do 3 way SLi.

The only way you get 3/4 way SLi on z97 is with a bridge chip meaning each GPU gets x8 or more.