9800x3d + Asrock LiveMixer B650 + 7900 XTX

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Pairing these together, I've tried to do research on it all and it looks like all I'm missing out on is PCIE 5.0 but after asking chat gpt a few questions, we're no where near using all of PCIE 4 and a youtube video showed about 5 fps difference between pcie3 and pcie4 with some of the 1% lows higher.

The asrock live mixer seems to have good VRM which I think is whats needed for the 9800x3d, I've currently got a budget PSU (cit fx pro 800w) which I've had running fine for ages but I'll be upgrading that to a 1000w corsair.

I'm not looking to do any extreme overclocking and it'll be mostly used for gaming and the odd bit of video editing.

Thoughts?
 
I guess I'm more wondering if I'm not making a mistake getting a b650, the price is good enough.

I'd be playing at 1440, I play everything really from new releases but the staple game is Escape From Tarkov. The 3070 I have is really struggling with the 8gb of ram and I think really has from game to game, Stalker 2 has just been another in the line causing issues
 
Depending on what you're getting the Livemixer for I'd consider getting ASRock's X870 Pro RS instead, it performed well thermally in HUB's roundup and you'll have USB4 and PCI-E 5.0. The 9800X3D is 500 quid, so £200 on the motherboard doesn't seem unreasonable, though I do agree that PCI-E 5.0 graphics is not a must have and likely won't matter much for the lifetime of the board (assuming you stick to cards with at least 8 lanes).

If you're getting an ATX 3.x PSU check that it has enough connectors for your EPS12v and your XTX, since they may need 2x EPS12v and 3x PCIE 8 pin, which on some ATX 3.x PSUs means using a horrid 12VHWPR to 2x PCIE 8 pin adapter, which should never have existed.
 
I saw someone say "If you dont know why you need an x870 you probably dont need one" and that kinda stuck with me, so "depending on what you're getting the livemixer for" is the same to me, I have no idea! lol I just want it to be suitable for the 9800x3d and play games on it without feeling like I'm leaving much on the table - it seems to have a good review on the VRMs which would make it suitable for the cpu, its around 150 and anything with similar VRMs is 200+ but also comes with a few extra bells and whistles like PCIE 5.0 and USB 4 which I've no real need for and again, from what I've looked online people seem to suggest by the time you'll NEED pcie5 you'll probably need a new setup anyway.

That's a good point on the PSU, I have the Corsair RM1000e (2023) in my basket but I keep seeing conflicting results on if I'll need 1000w or if 850w is good enough.

Definitely think it's easy to creep the price up on the premise that "it's just X for Y more" and before you know it, everything is shiny except the cupboards but if something is really worth having for the extra I'm not opposed to it :)
 
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That's a good point on the PSU, I have the Corsair RM1000e (2023) in my basket but I keep seeing conflicting results on if I'll need 1000w or if 850w is good enough.

Definitely think it's easy to creep the price up on the premise that "it's just X for Y more" and before you know it, everything is shiny except the cupboards but if something is really worth having for the extra I'm not opposed to it :)
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I'm not a fan of the RMe series, Corsair cut the warranty by three years versus the RMx, but don't seem to have cut the price to match :o

hwbusters reviewed the new RMx (ATX 3.x version), so that would be my suggestion:
hwbusters.com

Corsair RM1000x ATX v3.1 PSU Review - Page 11 of 11 - Hardware Busters

Hardware Busters - Corsair RM1000x ATX v3.1 PSU Review - PSUs
hwbusters.com hwbusters.com
 
Oh great, I was using partpicker and the RM1000e was "2023" and the RM1000x was "2021" and I just figured it was an upgraded version I didnt truly look into it but I can see overall it has better reviews, I also did see people saying it was hard to find reviews on the 'e' and it was ghost launched or something. I've swapped the 'x' into my build cheers, thats really helpful I appreiciate that
 
The Asrock boards are great, the Livemixer has reviewed very well and can be had cheaply because (tasteless) people hate the aesthetic.

If it has all the ports and slots you need, you should go for that one. Just make sure you update BIOS first.
 
Yeah it's been a while since I picked up a new motherboard but it seems you can flash the bios without a CPU these days, means no holding onto older CPUs or borrowing a friends hah.

Orange is my thing, big fan of the colour so I agree with the "tasteless" outlook on others, I think it looks great. As for the ports, I've never bought a motherboard and not had enough ports but I'll double check it.

I believe its the lightning pg I think it was that was also in the same weightclass
 
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Oh great, I was using partpicker and the RM1000e was "2023" and the RM1000x was "2021" and I just figured it was an upgraded version I didnt truly look into it but I can see overall it has better reviews, I also did see people saying it was hard to find reviews on the 'e' and it was ghost launched or something. I've swapped the 'x' into my build cheers, thats really helpful I appreiciate that
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The RMe has always been considered a lower tier model than the RMx, at least with the warranty length, but they released the newer RMe with the bundled 12VHPWR cable and I think that's the V2 (2023) version.

The original RMx doesn't have the ATX 3.x/PCIE5 label and doesn't include a 12VHWPR cable, but the new RMx version (2024) has an updated 12v-2x6 cable and is ATX 3.x compatible.

The RMx SHIFT is a different beast because it uses side-mounted cables that aren't compatible with all cases.
 
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What is that used for then? There is always some caveat with new tech that's easy to miss.

Tbh the part picker was set to compatibility and I don't recall there being an issue with anything but a bios flash needed
 
Might be worth considering a psu with that id think then, definitely food for thought. I only just picked up the xtx but I heard some stuff is coming out in January... of course i read that after it's been shipped
 
I'm trying not to fully break the bank, I'll have to have a look when I'm back at the pc but yeah that really helps, I doubt anything new NVIDIA is going to be xtx levels of appealing on price so gives a bit of time to consider things.

You've been a great help and insight, I appreciate it! I preordered the 9800x3d about an hour ago so I've got a few minutes or so to source the rest of the parts lol
 
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I'm trying not to fully break the bank
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From what I can see, the 1000 watts RMx (2021) is £120, the RMe (2023) is £120 and the RMx ATX 3.1 (2024) is £135?

I think the newer version is worth the extra £15 for that insurance with future cards, but you can always just buy a cable for the old RMx version (if you ever need it).

Alternatively, you could get the TUF 850 Gold for £90, but it only has 3x PCI-E 8 pin/EPS12v ports, which could be a problem, since if your XTX has 3x PCI-E 8 pins you'd have to resort to using the 12VHPWR to 2x 8 pin adapter and I really hate those.
 
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Id rather not use adapters if I can help it but if i can buy an extra cable that's not the end of the world and solves the issue if I need to but then £15 isnt a break the bank on it either
 
The cable Corsair sell for their older PSUs goes from the PSU's modular panel straight to the graphics card, so it is similar to using a native cable and avoids mess. Though, they also cost roughly the price difference between the two PSUs :D

Personally, I'd go with the new version, since PSUs are a long term investment and the XTX needs something decent too.
 
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