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9800X3D Failures/Deaths in the UK?

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My 9800X3D and Nova board is still sitting on my table, waiting for my RTX 5080 pre-order, however I have heard of potential issues with the platform, with CPUs failing (even though there is a lot of speculation on CPU, Motherboard (ASRock), RAM or the actual cause, with some thinking it is enabling of EXPO or suspended mode S3 state in windows). The issues tends to present itself as booting issues, black screens and eventually the CPU light on motherboard comes ON.

I reached out to OCUK who have assured me that they are not aware of any such issues, so I am wondering if anyone here has experienced them.

There is a Reddit page dedicated to this:




This is an extract of their latest failure list:
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Yes, probably an Asrock bios issue.

 
Been running an asrock nova and 9800X3d for over a month now, I bought the board as no other manufacturer comes close with useable nvme slots and I wanted at least 3 - 4 and a pcie slot for a soundcard. I have been keeping and eye on the reddit thread.


Its tricky to know what is going on as a lot of CPU's have been sold and a lot have picked Asrock for the reason I mention above, just keeping my fingers crossed at the moment.

Only running XMP on my memory which is essentially the same as EXPO, I also never let my PC sleep, only my displays will turn off, I have never used windows sleep
 
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Been running an asrock nova and 9800X3d for over a month now, I bought the board as no other manufacturer comes close with useable nvme slots and I wanted at least 3 - 4 and a pcie slot for a soundcard. I have been keeping and eye on the reddit thread.


Its tricky to know what is going on as a lot of CPU's have been sold and a lot have picked Asrock for the reason I mention above, just keeping my fingers crossed at the moment.

Only running XMP on my memory which is essentially the same as EXPO, I also never let my PC sleep, only my displays will turn off, I have never used windows sleep
Exactly why I got the Nova, the closest thing to it is the MSI MEG X870E GODLIKE.

I am debating if I should build it and use one of my old GPUs, running CPU test and general work/browsing to test it out. I pre-ordered the Aorus Waterforce 5080 when they had it priced at £1400, hence my wait, plus not much time to get it all up and running.


What settings are you running it on? CPU stock or manual tweaking, EXPO XMP or manual, BIOS 3.20 or whatever the board came on and what version was that?
 
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Exactly why I got the Nova, the closest thing to it is the MSI MEG X870E GODLIKE.

I am debating if I should build it and use one of my old GPUs, running CPU test and general work/browsing to test it out. I pre-ordered the Aorus Waterforce 5080 when they had it priced at £1400, hence my wait, plus not much time to get it all up and running.


What settings are you running it on? CPU stock or manual tweaking, EXPO XMP or manual, BIOS 3.20 or whatever the board came on and what version was that?
Running stock, no alterations in bios apart from XMP, turned off memory context restore (seems to boot fine in terms of speed), BIOS 3.20 (installed when I built it). I am running it with 64GB kingston RAM at 6000Mhz and a 9070XT Nitro+

As for the GODLIKE. lol I am never spending that kind of money on a board, hence why I bought the Nova, lets hope they figure this out and issue a BIOS update or maybe its just bad chips and within the realms of normal failure rates
 
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How is this still an issue! I thought this was something that got resolved ages ago with the 7000 chips! What is going on with PC’s these days they seem to have suicidal intent.
 
I've been running a 9800X3D since Christmas and a Gigabyte X870 Eagle without any issues at all.

Because of this issue I did triple check that the CPU was in the socket correctly and also got a contact frame holding it down as well.

I did hear that the early reports of this where user error as they had not put it in the socket correctly as you could see broken plastic from the socket as well.
 
Why are modern PC's so unreliable now? Swear I have never had so many issues than I've had since I got back into PC's back in 2023. Previous to that my last CPU was an intel 5820 I think! Issues across intel 13th and 14th gen and now I start reading that 9x series cpu's have problems. No issues with mine so far but if it fails I will be really ****** off.
 
Why are modern PC's so unreliable now?
I'd say they're not that bad. There were a lot of issues in the past too with CPUs, chipsets and motherboards, but we've maybe just (as a community) forgot about it.

Intel did use the same architecture (more or less) from around 2008 - 2020, which must have helped them and these newer CPUs are all prototypes really, especially the X3Ds on AMD's side.

In one of GN's videos I think they mentioned that most of the CPUs came from one of only two batches, so that's not long for them to iron out any issues.
 
Exactly why I got the Nova, the closest thing to it is the MSI MEG X870E GODLIKE.

I am debating if I should build it and use one of my old GPUs, running CPU test and general work/browsing to test it out. I pre-ordered the Aorus Waterforce 5080 when they had it priced at £1400, hence my wait, plus not much time to get it all up and running.


What settings are you running it on? CPU stock or manual tweaking, EXPO XMP or manual, BIOS 3.20 or whatever the board came on and what version was that?
I am on my 2 week leave from work so had plenty of time to read up pretty much all the posts, conclusion, analysis etc in multiple languages (including asroxk JP posts on x) and coming to a conclusion that the issue is with a combination of certain RAM sticks and their timings/freq. I am not saying that either AMD or ASROCK hadn't got something wrong, but sharing observations from days of reading crap online. There was a post of two users using the same batch CPUs on asroxk mbs one had it fried and the other not. Of course variance in PSU is probs also worth considering....What that Reddit megathread is missing is noting which ram sticks/PSU combis those failures were using, if we had that data, at least users like us, shopping, could use that data to avoided certain brands, frequency and timing combos.

Having ordered 9800x3d from Amazon sale for 440 quid, I started to look into MBs, and as majority stated above, ASROCK boards seem to have all the bells and whistles for fraction of a price. Now looking at the prices and features of other mbs I am still going to buy a Nova from either scan or Amazon directly and give it a shot. What I am worried about the most is sticking my 5090fe into the board which potentially might fry the CPU . I know my worry is not substantiated by any facts, but took me ages to get the blighter so cannot be arsed to go through chasing milarchy again.
 
Why are modern PC's so unreliable now? Swear I have never had so many issues than I've had since I got back into PC's back in 2023. Previous to that my last CPU was an intel 5820 I think! Issues across intel 13th and 14th gen and now I start reading that 9x series cpu's have problems. No issues with mine so far but if it fails I will be really ****** off.
I'm with you pal, it's because manufacturers are in vicious cycle of releasing new lines every 2-3 years, no time to test all that r&d properly like they used to when we started building pentium 3s with hercules, all this speedy design to production which is pushed to it's limits.
 
I am on my 2 week leave from work so had plenty of time to read up pretty much all the posts, conclusion, analysis etc in multiple languages (including asroxk JP posts on x) and coming to a conclusion that the issue is with a combination of certain RAM sticks and their timings/freq. I am not saying that either AMD or ASROCK hadn't got something wrong, but sharing observations from days of reading crap online. There was a post of two users using the same batch CPUs on asroxk mbs one had it fried and the other not. Of course variance in PSU is probs also worth considering....What that Reddit megathread is missing is noting which ram sticks/PSU combis those failures were using, if we had that data, at least users like us, shopping, could use that data to avoided certain brands, frequency and timing combos.

Having ordered 9800x3d from Amazon sale for 440 quid, I started to look into MBs, and as majority stated above, ASROCK boards seem to have all the bells and whistles for fraction of a price. Now looking at the prices and features of other mbs I am still going to buy a Nova from either scan or Amazon directly and give it a shot. What I am worried about the most is sticking my 5090fe into the board which potentially might fry the CPU . I know my worry is not substantiated by any facts, but took me ages to get the blighter so cannot be arsed to go through chasing milarchy again.
Pretty sure your GPU will be fine. No indication that the pcie slot has any issue. As to the CPU issue I really have no idea. I took the plunge this morning and enabled curve optimiser and put a negative 10 on my 9800x3d, all seems to be working fine, I was going to leave it all alone but it had all been running fine for the last month.

I would also like more details on failures, ram used, power supply etc etc. seems other manufacturers are starting to have more failures as well now so maybe it's just the CPU ?
 
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I feel like it's going to be a small fraction that actually fail and it's good that they will be covered by warranty. Considering how many chips will have been sold.

Time will tell on this
 
Why are modern PC's so unreliable now? Swear I have never had so many issues than I've had since I got back into PC's back in 2023. Previous to that my last CPU was an intel 5820 I think! Issues across intel 13th and 14th gen and now I start reading that 9x series cpu's have problems. No issues with mine so far but if it fails I will be really ****** off.
Modern PC are very reliable now. Things that used to die were Hard Drives and occasional PSU going bang and if you wrere unlucky taking out your motherboard and everything in it. Can’t remember now seeing any failures other than old mechanical hard drives.

CPU’s burning. Where I can I try to control voltages manually and monitor the rest using HWInfo. I know in the past auto applied some crazy SOC voltages. Auto can be a bit dodgy with new firmware.
 
Why are modern PC's so unreliable now? Swear I have never had so many issues than I've had since I got back into PC's back in 2023. Previous to that my last CPU was an intel 5820 I think! Issues across intel 13th and 14th gen and now I start reading that 9x series cpu's have problems. No issues with mine so far but if it fails I will be really ****** off.

If you don't want to be one of the people shaking out the bugs from new tech released 5 minutes ago then don't get the new tech.

Ignore the nagging fear of missing out and buy into it years later.
 
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