99% of all Vista Questions answered here...

Burnsy2023 · 24 Jan 2007 at 17:01

REDD555 said:
Was it exactly the same model as the dead one you replaced? That might have been it?

The question lies not with what board you replaced it with, but why. You are only licenced for faliure and not for upgrade.

For more info, look at the licencing thread.

Burnsy

Leporello · 24 Jan 2007 at 17:03

burnsy2023 said:
*Parrott Mode*

OEM has NEVER allowed a motherboard change in the licencing terms, unless in a warrenty replacement.

If MS will allow you to activate is another thing. They shoudln't but they might.

Burnsy

I've changed my motherboard five times with XP Home OEM and my GFX card three times and have never had problems with activation. I've seen and posted on another thread here a quote from a Microsoft spokesman stating that Microsoft wants to work with the enthusiasts which suggested that they may allow up to 10 motherboard changes with the OEM licence. However, I shall be buying Vista Home Premium to be on the safe side.

Burnsy2023 · 24 Jan 2007 at 17:07

Leporello said:
I've changed my motherboard five times with XP Home OEM and my GFX card three times and have never had problems with activation. I've seen and posted on another thread here a quote from a Microsoft spokesman stating that Microsoft wants to work with the enthusiasts which suggested that they may allow up to 10 motherboard changes with the OEM licence. However, I shall be buying Vista Home Premium to be on the safe side.

Source? Either on here or elsewhere? I don't believe a word of it. MS would never do this on an OEM licence. And like I said, what they activate and what is licenced are two very different things.

Burnsy

schford · 24 Jan 2007 at 17:15

Vista 64 does not require digitally signed drivers at all.

I am quite happily running unsigned 8800 beta drivers - it just warns you with a nice red box.

aaazza · 24 Jan 2007 at 17:16

Great thread, definitely sticky material. Answered a lot of my questions.

Cheers,

aaazza

NotAGolf · 24 Jan 2007 at 18:09

Another question i'm afraid, does this package mean that you have the choice to install either 32bit or 64 bit?

Burnsy2023 · 24 Jan 2007 at 18:11

mpledge52 said:
Another question i'm afraid, does this package mean that you have the choice to install either 32bit or 64 bit?

Yes. Only OEM has a restriction on which flavour you can install.

Burnsy

Reppyboyo · 24 Jan 2007 at 19:55

Question regarding Upgrade versions.

Do you just need your XP disk to upgrade, or does XP need to be installed on the system for it to be upgraded?

Burnsy2023 · 24 Jan 2007 at 19:58

Reppyboyo said:
Question regarding Upgrade versions.

Do you just need your XP disk to upgrade, or does XP need to be installed on the system for it to be upgraded?

From what people have said, and I have not personal experience, you need XP installed and activated.

Burnsy

HighlandeR · 24 Jan 2007 at 21:06

I hope MS change there policy, do you know how much problems they will create with there licensing policys if an engineer replaces a mobo with a simiilar one or updated bios/revision and then it says sorry u gotta buy a new copy of Vista.....

Mobos go outta stock/stop being made fairly fast in the market so equivelents are usualy sent out well thats how it is in large retail PC Superstore.

I can just picture my department being flooded with registration/or Invalid PCs constantly coming in every 5 minutes of the day, looks like were gonna be the unoffical Vista clinic :eek:

Burnsy2023 · 24 Jan 2007 at 22:20

HighlandeR said:
I hope MS change there policy, do you know how much problems they will create with there licensing policys if an engineer replaces a mobo with a simiilar one or updated bios/revision and then it says sorry u gotta buy a new copy of Vista.....

EH? Have you read anything I've said?

Burnsy

HighlandeR · 25 Jan 2007 at 07:57

burnsy2023 said:
EH? Have you read anything I've said?

Burnsy

tbh aint understood your last comments I know you have said activating and license is 2 very different things.

Last rumour i heard was what Leporello said.... not unless you can add to that cos its still all confusing, appears most are on here also

benjo plz. · 25 Jan 2007 at 08:20

This is from bit-tech... nuff said

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nands · 25 Jan 2007 at 11:47

A new question for you all. Reading around I found this article about the different versions.

In the article he effectively states that only Ultimate can support dual processors, or specifically that Home Premium cannot.

Is this complete rubbish or is there an element of truth to it or have I misunderstood and it is purely about two separate processors rather that dual cores, or multipe cores?

Mobius 1 · 25 Jan 2007 at 11:59

Phnom_Penh said:
This is from bit-tech...

excellent. thats cleared that one up for everyone. including myself, i was getting quite confused up there^^^

roakes · 25 Jan 2007 at 12:02

nands said:
A new question for you all. Reading around I found this article about the different versions.

In the article he effectively states that only Ultimate can support dual processors, or specifically that Home Premium cannot.

Is this complete rubbish or is there an element of truth to it or have I misunderstood and it is purely about two separate processors rather that dual cores, or multipe cores?

I believe it's referring to 2 physical processors rather than dual or multi cores. Otherwise it would be a downgrade from XP really

Burnsy2023 · 25 Jan 2007 at 12:26

roakes said:
I believe it's referring to 2 physical processors rather than dual or multi cores. Otherwise it would be a downgrade from XP really

Correct, the home premium licence allows one single, physical processor with unlimited cores. Business and Ultimate support Dual physical processors with unlimited cores.

Burnsy

Burnsy2023 · 25 Jan 2007 at 12:29

Phnom_Penh said:
This is from bit-tech...

I had to phone MS about something else today and I asked.

You can't change the motherboard on an OEM licence, however you can change other hardware, and it's not necessarily limited to 10 activations.

Burnsy

benjo plz. · 25 Jan 2007 at 12:39

burnsy2023 said:
You can't change the motherboard on an OEM licence

I thought we were under the impresson that you could do it atleast once :\.

TC1 · 25 Jan 2007 at 12:56

My mate installed Vista OEM in his pc and all was ok till the board died on him on Monday! He went and replaced the Mobo (Could not get the same one) and had to contact Microsoft to get it reactivated. They did so with no problems at all. The guy on the phone told him that Microsoft were indeed trying to be as user friendly as possible and were not as strict on activation as people were led to believe. He said that they had been instructed to give and take and that the EULA was there as a guide and a deterent only.

Looks like i will be getting the OEM Premium then!!