A 5D question....

divine` · 9 Feb 2007 at 00:20

sonyaddict said:
My mate down the pub... no really! has a 400D and produces awesome wildlife photographs. maybe I might buy one and if it suits sell the 5D while it commands a reasonable second hand price.

A different camera won't make you take better photos

Johnny|lucidcomposure · 9 Feb 2007 at 00:34

divine_madness said:
A different camera won't make you take better photos

It really is true.

Mastering Light will give you stunning photographs.

Yes and composition and all of those but a lot of people shout because they don't understand light.

rpstewart · 9 Feb 2007 at 08:48

divine_madness said:
A different camera won't make you take better photos

Yes and no. I wholeheartedly agree with both yourself and FStop11 that changing the camera won't improve the composition of shots etc but there are times when a different camera will allow you to take the shots you want.

A couple of years ago I went from a D60 to a 1D MkII and the difference in the number of keepers from action shots is incredible. Going through last year's Goodwood shots I threw away photos that were technically better than keepers from the D60 simply because the 1D's AF is light years ahead of the D60. With the D60 from a burst of 8 frames in a single pan I maybe got 1 spot on and 2 OK, with the 1D I was getting maybe 6 bang on and the other 2 better than the OK ones from the D60.

^^Gord^^ · 9 Feb 2007 at 08:50

morgan said:
what did you go for in the end gord?

I'm waiting until March to see what Canon come out with. They may come out with something that suits my needs better or they may replace the 5D which should mean I could pick up a 5D for less money

morgan · 9 Feb 2007 at 10:13

maybe wise on a money point of view.

All I can say is that, for once that I have zero need/motivation to ever change my 5D for a long time (famous last words!). It does exactly what I ask of it every time.

Wyvern971 · 9 Feb 2007 at 10:48

morgan said:
It does exactly what I ask of it every time.

My 5D is starting to do that as well

if only it could roll over on command

Johnny|lucidcomposure · 9 Feb 2007 at 14:17

rpstewart said:
Yes and no. I wholeheartedly agree with both yourself and FStop11 that changing the camera won't improve the composition of shots etc but there are times when a different camera will allow you to take the shots you want.

A couple of years ago I went from a D60 to a 1D MkII and the difference in the number of keepers from action shots is incredible. Going through last year's Goodwood shots I threw away photos that were technically better than keepers from the D60 simply because the 1D's AF is light years ahead of the D60. With the D60 from a burst of 8 frames in a single pan I maybe got 1 spot on and 2 OK, with the 1D I was getting maybe 6 bang on and the other 2 better than the OK ones from the D60.

As a general rule what I was saying is correct and your clearly right with your motorsport reference.

My skill at trackside was untried the first time I approched motorsport and wasnt great but had a lot of keepers. My 2nd time I applied some know how and my shots were coming out great. Only time it wasnt was when the AF point moved away from the car/bike.

I have now got a keen intrest in close proximity photography with autosport and requires me to be less than 100mm from them filling the frame. For this my 30D's AF isnt upto the job and I am looking for a mark II for this so yes another camera is going to help me there but only in situations such as for high speed movement.

Lets be honest though, a 1D can help a lot of people due to its blazing speed.
(btw, im not disagreeing with you at all)

ElDude · 9 Feb 2007 at 23:00

I think he is. GET HIM!

sonyaddict · 19 Feb 2007 at 23:11

divine_madness said:
A different camera won't make you take better photos

If you take time to go on a great site .

http://forum.manualfocus.org/index.php

Of which under the name 'walshy' i like to hang out. Everyone there is not brand conscious but helpful.
I’ve got 30 year old lenses that blow there modern day equivalent away only for a 10th of the price.

I’m not by any means suggesting technology make photographers.

Keep your sweeping statements to yourself.... :mad:

ElDude · 19 Feb 2007 at 23:59

It was hardly a sweeping statement. All he posted was a fact. I think you're a bit too touchy there me old mucka

I was looking through some Deviant art sites before, and there's a chap on there taking photos with a 300D and kit lens, that would put some people to shame.

divine` · 20 Feb 2007 at 01:14

I'm not entirely sure i'm grasping the point of your post, other than saying old equipment is still good but cheaper, which as far as i can see bears no relevance to my statement.

My point is that swapping about isn't likely to change much.

If for example, you were to give me a Nikon D70, Nikon D2X, Canon 350D and a Canon 1Ds, all the shots would be largely of the same calibre, with maybe a few technical issues like noise and sharpness varying.

A D2X/1Ds wouldn't automatically make my composition, light interpretation, setting choices etc. better than they would be on a D70/350D