A brief history of OpenGL

[Silent_Scone]

I might dual boot SteamOS soon just to give it a whirl. Not just yet though...

 

[Gregster]

bluetooth controller
quite a few of them for android now

a steambox is just a prebuilt PC with SteamOS, so just install SteamOS on your PC (as dual boot if needs be) job done, a steam box will be £75 cheaper than a self built windows PC of the same spec
but yes, for consumer adoption they will need to get the steamboxes right and the right price

The hardest part is convincing the consolites to grab one. The masses are what's needed to adopt and this will take some time. Some good PC exclusives could potentially bring them.

As for Dual booting, this is something I will be doing but not just yet.

 

[andybird123]

The hardest part is convincing the consolites to grab one. The masses are what's needed to adopt and this will take some time. Some good PC exclusives could potentially bring them.

As for Dual booting, this is something I will be doing but not just yet.

yep, certainly true, it is all basically "in beta" at the moment, as it matures and volumes increase I'm sure we'll see them become better value - if the efforts of AMD and Nvidia see console like performance improvements, the major advantage a steam box will have over consoles will be being able to take advantage of the ever increasing performance of PC hardware and being able to upgrade your steam box with a new GPU or such

right now is a tough time to be launching a relatively low volume "new console", as the majors have just been updated and show pretty good price/performance right now, but as they get longer in the tooth the steam alternative will seem fresher and better value by comparison

 

[Doco]

Actually read the whole post and was quite insightful, I've literally only gotten into pc gaiing within the last few years, and not too long before that before I had my own pc (well laptop), so I missed out on all the early stuff and it's good to get nice "summaries" of the past to help explain why something happening now is a big deal

 

[Silent_Scone]

Great read Gregster and I notice it touches on the limitations of Vista which is what I was referring to in the Mantle thread as to why it died out. I've actually reinstalled Doom 3 to revisit with the perfection MOD which makes some nice gameplay and graphic improvements .

Resurrection of evil is much better though . D3 is more of a power cut simulator

 

[Gregster]

Yer Vista and slow to deadlines were the downfall of OpenGL and some good ol scaremongering from Microsoft at work didn't help but it seems with Android and SteamOS, it is getting a deserved resurgence.

 

[Silent_Scone]

I'll post some screenshots when I'm done modding D3. Looks amazing for it's age

 

[Silent_Scone]

Not bad for a 10 year old engine

Spoiler

 

[arc@css]

Yeah, that's a good mod. One of the better D3 mods I've played. I seem to recall it made my GTX570 SOC creak and groan a bit.

 

[tommybhoy]

Good man gregorio, much needed thread.

I do hope SteamOS gets a fair crack of the whip and with both AMD and nVidia giving it full backing, I see it has a damned good chance. I know AMD have been slow to Linux in the past but they seem to be taking the bull by the horns and jumping on SteamOS.

if the efforts of AMD and Nvidia see console like performance improvements, the major advantage a steam box will have over consoles will be being able to take advantage of the ever increasing performance of PC hardware and being able to upgrade your steam box with a new GPU or such

as they get longer in the tooth the steam alternative will seem fresher and better value by comparison

Best stuff you two have said all year.

Open Mantle+OGL FTW!

Mantle/OGL to give us the games we deserve for the monies we spend.

ZERO MS restraints with hardware that can truly smash new wave of consoles clean out the park, sounds good to me, SteamOS gets my vote for sure.

MS has been holding back PC performance since the dawn of the original XBox, it's been going on far too long now.

 

[Silent_Scone]

Yeah, that's a good mod. One of the better D3 mods I've played. I seem to recall it made my GTX570 SOC creak and groan a bit.

Contains high res texture pack along side some of the effects (HDR, Post FXAA etc), and it could do with some optimisation considering 3 780Tis can't handle 4XAA at 1440P .

It looks brilliant for it's age though, although arguably so do some Source games like L4D2!

Oh wait, that's OpenGL as well

See a trend here for this massively prehistoric programming interface?