a job in computing

easyrider said:
I know what one is..

I was questioning Foxs nonsense post imo:p
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Learn to read - I wasn't saying somebody who sold phones in Phones4u was a consultant, quite the contrary infact. I simply said they wear badges which say they are, which is true. I was talking about the dilution of job titles.
 
getting a job in it is easy, Just blag your way through the job interview and google any tasks your given to do.
 
There was an ad on tv not so long ago about being a games designer, 30k a year. So if your doing graphics maybe game design is something to look into (unless thats a dead end job aswell now).
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Was it that university advert or something that went something like this:

Do you want to design your own games instead of playing them?

How does £30000 a year and a company car sound?
 
[TW]Fox;10462679 said:
Learn to read - I wasn't saying somebody who sold phones in Phones4u was a consultant, quite the contrary infact. I simply said they wear badges which say they are, which is true. I was talking about the dilution of job titles.
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they are called 'consultants' to boost job morale, for the same reason that binmen are called 'refuge technicians'
 
Skeeter said:
Im in plymouth!

CNET321. Im the only BIMS student there! Its all techys!
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Aha you're a 3rd year BIMS student...you share a module with us :) (but not my year - I'm a 2nd year CSN)

Which means it's ok for me to dig into your earlier post now ;)

Directors get there by blagging and getting other people to do the donkey work and then get the credit for it.
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No, more often than not we're the ones who created the company at the start and who now have the far harder task of caring for the overall organisation.

I like sitting in my networking lectures looking at all the coders and thinking to myself that Im the only one there with any Business qualifications and any experience...
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Well yeah, that's because you're sitting with a bunch of networking geeks, or perhaps business students who haven't been as fortunate as you or done what you have.

I could sit in my lectures (the ones that I need to go to) thinking "yeah, look at me, I rock" because I've done a lot of things the other people have and therefore have a huge headstart, but that quickly wore off as soon as I found my competition and had to get down to task just like the others :)

There's also a good reason that consultants exist, which is because they have the experience. If you already have experience then surely you can see this - you'll be learning something which you've already tried yourself, so you'll have a headstart.

eg in my modules I can help out others by saying "that's right, but watch out for X Y and Z" - life is a learning process :)

Obviously in some industries there's job title dilution to make consumers/employees feel more important, but I'd bet it's not some newly-grad kid designing the systems running petabyte databases of financial institutions or health infrastructure :) (infact I know it isn't because a friend's dad is one such consultant, which I expect is why it's so interesting for him to watch me/us progress through our career and help us out here and there)

Only 2 industries in the world call their customers 'Users'. The IT industry, and the drugs industry....
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That I agree on :D
 
Do mechanics mate, you will spend your whole life crying in the computer industry as computing wages head in the downward direction due to cheap overseas compys and computer engineers :)
 
Cryogenic said:
Do mechanics mate, you will spend your whole life crying in the computer industry as computing wages head in the downward direction due to cheap overseas compys and computer engineers :)
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What and live in poverty all his life? Short of starting your own garage its never going to go anywhere.
 
Beansprout said:
Well yeah, that's because you're sitting with a bunch of networking geeks, or perhaps business students who haven't been as fortunate as you or done what you have.
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Its because its fairly obvious they all want to leave uni and become coders or network admin. Ill have the Business side of things and the years experience above them when I graduate at the same time... i.e. i will be applying for jobs that would make me their superior!

People who at 21 still think that IT for IT's sake can be a career. To the OP, dont let yourself become this!
 
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[TW]Fox;10462793 said:
Beansprout with respect I don't think he is talking about the sort of director you are :)
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Probably not, but I think he's a little cynical in general about bosses although he wants to be one which is weird!

[Its because its fairly obvious they all want to leave uni and become coders or network admin. Ill have the Business side of things and the years experience above them when I graduate at the same time... i.e. i will be applying for jobs that would make me their superior!
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Good on ya, just remember other people have different ideas which is the whole point of going to uni I guess, to meet different people and stuff :)

e.g. they may prefer to optimise algorithms, whereas people like you/me may prefer to get in on the management/business side of things:cool:
 
Beansprout said:
Just checked out the module....looks a bit mean for non-CSN students - it's basically the sort of stuff we do all day every day :)
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I take it the second year of CSN is somewhat different to the first year where you pretty much spend your entire life doing pure electronics and you touch a computer to do coursework and thats about it :(
 
Beansprout said:
Oh you found it easy, good :D

Did you have Bogdan? He's awesome :cool: But not the easiest to listen too, agreed.
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can't remember his name, pretty sure it was the typical German, tall blond hair.

Can't remember what module it was in the third year, but I took it as it was 100% course and omg it was insane, the amount of work you had to do was stupid. I spent more time on that once module than I did on the 5.
 
Got CJ this year! Hes Awsome! Was my warden in the first year. HAd Bogdan in the 2nd year for a module assessed entirely on a single 6000 word essay on the history of the internet!

Yes the module is lots of numbers and binary and ip addresses. But its 100% coursework, and the other choices were HR or a rediculously hard multimedia course, on Macs!

As for coursework ammount, 7 questions, 2 of which combined make well over 30 pages of ip addresses! - well, mine does anyway
 
AcidHell2 said:
can't remember his name, pretty sure it was the typical German, tall blond hair.

Can't remember what module it was in the third year, but I took it as it was 100% course and omg it was insane, the amount of work you had to do was stupid. I spent more time on that once module than I did on the 5.
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eek :/

So far I've preferred the coursework modules but they're gradually getting worse....I don't mind projects, but things like several-thousand-word reports I just don't get on with at all. Fortunately I have a placement year to prepare myself before final year....
 
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