A question for our Muslim members ....

I think all beliefs can get pretty dodgy...
look at certain US catholic groups oposing abortion and willing to literally kill,
look at certain animal rights people who are willing to kill or maim humans,
look at people who take relatives abroad for euthanasia.

Just a few examples.
Humans aren't nice. Get used to it, and any belief can just give a good reason to accentuate that.
 
Bigstan said:
I would like to know if there are any things which I may unwittingly do which may offend my colleagues i.e. swearing etc.
As I will be working in their country, I feel it would be respectful to modify any behaviour which may cause offence.
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First thing you should do is get an Egyptian flag and iron it in front of them. This is to show the care and respect you have for their nation by treating the symbol of their country well.

An iron might not be at hand. If one is not at hand it is quite acceptable to use your shoe to beat any creases out. Don't be afraid to lie the flag out and hammer it with your shoe.

Many countries use shouting to ward of evil spirits. Now would be a good time to do this to show you wish all evil to leave their country.

Shout and scream while beating their flag with your shoe.

and of course just be yourself.
 
Vanilla said:
First thing you should do is get an Egyptian flag and iron it in front of them. This is to show the care and respect you have for their nation by treating the symbol of their country well.

An iron might not be at hand. If one is not at hand it is quite acceptable to use your shoe to beat any creases out. Don't be afraid to lie the flag out and hammer it with your shoe.

Many countries use shouting to ward of evil spirits. Now would be a good time to do this to show you wish all evil to leave their country.

Shout and scream while beating their flag with your shoe.

and of course just be yourself.
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LOL

Headlines:
"Oil worker lynched for defiling Egyptian flag in Alexandria" :D

I always am myself as recommended by a few people. Part of who I am though, is being respectful of other peoples beliefs and customs - especially when I am in their country.

Stan :)
 
Vanilla said:
First thing you should do is get an Egyptian flag and iron it in front of them. This is to show the care and respect you have for their nation by treating the symbol of their country well.

An iron might not be at hand. If one is not at hand it is quite acceptable to use your shoe to beat any creases out. Don't be afraid to lie the flag out and hammer it with your shoe.

Many countries use shouting to ward of evil spirits. Now would be a good time to do this to show you wish all evil to leave their country.

Shout and scream while beating their flag with your shoe.

and of course just be yourself.
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LOL
 
Islam is a religion of peace It does not teach to break any laws. There are no laws in the UK which contradict any of the teachings of Islam, and as far as I am concerned, never will. If say communism ever ruled (Which i think is the only way Muslims would not be able to practice their religion) it wont be just Muslims that will be fleeing the country...
 
Nedved11 said:
Islam is a religion of peace It does not teach to break any laws. There are no laws in the UK which contradict any of the teachings of Islam, and as far as I am concerned, never will. If say communism ever ruled (Which i think is the only way Muslims would not be able to practice their religion) it wont be just Muslims that will be fleeing the country...
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It is not the teachings that count in the eyes of the law it is the actions of the followers.
 
Sequoia said:
I have a question I would like answered, and it was prompted by thinking about the issues raised by the cartoon controversy.

However ......

..... I don't want it loaded by negative connotations from that thread or that issue. This is a genuine and general non-loaded question, and I really want a genuine answer.

I would also be obliged if people could keep ALL mention of the cartoon issue out of this thread, or it'll end up about that.


So, the question .....

As a Muslim, if your faith requires one thing and the law of this land requires another, which do you follow?

What I mean is if the mandates of your faith and the secular law of the country (whichever it may be) are in direct contradiction, which takes precedence?
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depends if its somethin stupid like i cant pray or goto mosque or blatant laws against muslims . in that case id do it anyway.

apart from that cant see me having a problem with the laws of this country.

end of the day for me my family and loved ones are in this country, so theyre protection is the priority for me.

if it comes down to war scenario ill be protectin my family.
 
B&W said:
depends if its somethin stupid like i cant pray or goto mosque or blatant laws against muslims . in that case id do it anyway.

apart from that cant see me having a problem with the laws of this country.
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With one possible exception I cant see what law could be passed that would be troublesome for a muslim to obey unless they were as B&W suggest blatently anti muslim.

The one possible area of future contention I think may come up is to do with dietry laws and animal rights and would ironically effect Jews as well.
 
Most (common) laws of the land have been handed down over the generations. And in general the laws of the land have descended from religeon (eg. in England many of the old laws were passed by Church leaders). And because most religeons (in particular judaism, islam and christianity - cant say much about buddhism, sikhism or hinduism as i dont know enough about them) tend to have similar "rules/laws", the law of the land and religeous beliefs tend to go hand in hand.

I cant even think of a single rule in England that goes directly against a rule of Islam, Christianity or Judaism, where following your religeon breaks a law or vice versa.

Can anyone think of a religeous belief, where if it is followed, it would be breaking a law in the UK?
 
sunama said:
Can anyone think of a religeous belief, where if it is followed, it would be breaking a law in the UK?
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Sortof. Seikh's (or maybe its turban wearers in general, but I thought the law was Seikh-specific) can ride a motorbike without a helmet. Not a case of breaking the law, but an example of some sort of compromise.
 
As a Sikh who has generally followed the laws of the land, I will continue doing so. How things are at the moment is fine for me, but should something happen which contradicts my beliefs then i'll have to access and evaluate at the time. My beliefs are important to me and I will not follow what a few men in charge decide, if I disagree with their views (in an extreme scenario).
 
You only have to look at so called honour killings to see that idiotic dogma takes precedence over the law of the land.
 
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