A third of U25s haven't drunk alcohol in the past year

The increase in alcohol free varieties and consumption of them.... is it like a trigger to the brain based on taste? i.e. can endorphins actually be released just based on taste/memories associated, rather than actual alcohol? I thought it had to be a chemical reaction with real alcohol to do that. I'm surprised of the popularity of them.
 
Generic Saturday night high street club playing "pop" music and full of ****ed up meatheads looking for a fight/one-night stand? Agreed, no idea how anyone can enjoy that.

When I were a lad, the pubs closed at 11pm so you had no choice but to find some grim provincial night club if you wanted to continue drinking. My experience mirrors yours though.

It was a real eye-opener when I moved to the big smoke and realised that clubs existed where people were friendly, no-one gave a **** if you were wearing trainers and bouncers didn’t have attitude problems.

I’m not surprised the cheesy nightclubs with sticky floors are dying out now.
 
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When I were a lad, the pubs closed at 11pm so you had no choice but to find some grim provincial night club if you wanted to continue drinking. My experience mirrors yours though.

It was a real eye-opener when I moved to the big smoke and realised that clubs existed where people were friendly, no-one gave a **** if you were wearing trainers and bouncers didn’t have attitude problems.

I’m not surprised the cheesy nightclubs with sticky floors are dying out now.

My clubbing days were in Bath, where luckily there was quite a big "alternative" scene, so the clubs (all 2 of them) had metal, drum & bass and dubstep nights during the week (they did the usual generic rubbish on the busier Friday/Saturday nights). Sucked having to get up for college/work the next day after 2 hours sleep, but great fun nonetheless! They were always packed, even on Monday nights.

Had to go on a mission for the big nights in Birmingham though; plenty of fond memories of getting out of the club at 5am, stumbling to New Street station, and sitting on the floor with my mates waiting for the first train back home! :cry:
 
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The increase in alcohol free varieties and consumption of them.... is it like a trigger to the brain based on taste? i.e. can endorphins actually be released just based on taste/memories associated, rather than actual alcohol? I thought it had to be a chemical reaction with real alcohol to do that. I'm surprised of the popularity of them.
I can only speak for myself but I often feel like a beer and 99% of the time an AF beer will satisfy that craving with zero side effects. The other 1% I might have a proper one afterwards. There are loads of good options now - Big Drop, Heineken and Guinness all make very good zero percent beers.
 
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I'm glad I experienced the pub/clubbing years. Many will never experience it now. Going to good clubs late 90s/early 00s when trance was peak. The UK has reached a point now where it's not cheap to do anything, anywhere... except at home. The life has been sucked out of everything. Most youth now pre-drink due to cost, or just do parties/socials at people's houses. I think everything is much more tame though as nobody has their own house obviously being a teen, so it's parent's houses and therefore behaviour has to be in check.
 
A few of my nieces and nephews don't drink. They are all in early 20s and have never drank. They dont see the point in spending money on drink. They still go out with their friends but only have soft drinks or water.

I kinda understand I used to drink when I was younger. Now I might only drink 2-3 times a year... Hangovers kill me. And Am even less inclined to drink now as one of my best mates has a massive issue with drink and is refusing to accept he is an alcoholic...Unfortunately looks like he will end up losing everything
 
I think OP nailed it.

There as also been a war on the pub/bar/club industry when shops started selling alcohol very cheaply. This had a knock on effect that less people were buying drinks when out, so those prices went up. In my final years of that world it became normal to pre-load before going out.

There is still a lot of young people going out. But I'm guessing it's more limited to just the weekend. I'm thinking social drinking outside of the weekend as dropped.

The main thing I liked about going out was the random nature of the night. Meeting people I wouldn't normally associate with was something I enjoyed.
 
I think OP nailed it.

There as also been a war on the pub/bar/club industry when shops started selling alcohol very cheaply. This had a knock on effect that less people were buying drinks when out, so those prices went up. In my final years of that world it became normal to pre-load before going out.

There is still a lot of young people going out. But I'm guessing it's more limited to just the weekend. I'm thinking social drinking outside of the weekend as dropped.

The main thing I liked about going out was the random nature of the night. Meeting people I wouldn't normally associate with was something I enjoyed.
It's not 'war' it's competition and they lost.

Frankly good riddance the older generations have a ******* ridiculous addiction to the stuff that these kids have seen first hand so a little puritanism developing is entirely I think natural. The only unfortunate consequence is the likely return of the temperance psychos thinking they can ban everything.
 
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I see it more and more in my age group too. People drinking 0.0% or simply just soft drinks. I was at a polo event last weekend in a private lounge, about 20 people there, age ranges from 25-60. I'd say at least 50% of people there were drinking soft drinks only or zero percent alcohol. Myself included. For the only reason that it tastes like crap (to me), it makes me feel like crap when I come down from the whoozy happy feeling (which only last about 30min for me), and then there's the added bonus of paying hell the next day too. Nah, not worth it for me.
 
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Yes - the tricky bit (IMO) is identifying why you like reality being hazier.

It could be because something in your life is hard to tolerate, such as a job. This is the obvious ‘go to’ set of problems.

… or it could be because your very mild dependence on, say, alcohol / daydreaming / porn etc, has the side effect of making the rest of your life less tolerable - so the occasionally hard things get distorted into being ‘really hard’ and it’s hard to see the pros.

It can be both of course, but that second one is really subtle and hard to spot.

The mind is such a puzzle!

Isn't the 'go to' because it is more fun and makes life feel less like a ... job.

Ah, I see.
 
It's not 'war' it's competition and they lost.

Frankly good riddance the older generations have a ******* ridiculous addiction to the stuff that these kids have seen first hand so a little puritanism developing is entirely I think natural. The only unfortunate consequence is the likely return of the temperance psychos thinking they can ban everything.
The only bad thing I didn't like about those days is it became a trend for some people, both men and women, to get absolutely obliterated with alcohol. It seemed to be their aim of the night.

I was always a social drinker. Though I've not touched any alcohol in 16 years.
 
There's so many pressures against drinking.

Cost
More health aware
That you don't need it to have a good time
More hobbies available that are more interesting

For me it's simply that alcohol is expensive, it makes me feel like **** and can ruin a weekend feeling rough.

Also. When one drink is what a day's food costs? Yeah, hard to justify. It's not far off a month of Netflix.
 
If I do go out for a pub meal (not driving) I always go for a pint of draft real ale. As can’t buy that in supermarkets.

Buying spirits and mixers is a rip off. Some places a double JD and Coke can be £10.

If customers were less rude towards us and stop coming in like a coach trip has landed - the drinking would be reduced.
 
Makes sense, no one enjoys it really anymore, I used to have a drink in my 20's but its very limited these days and when I do I just feel wrecked for days, no particular benefit to it and I may just have the 1 small one for taste but have learned eventually that just the 1 is fine, you get the taste and very little side effect the next day.
 
I mean why would you? Imagine you're a 21 year old on barely over minimum wage, you go out to the pub with 6 friends and go to buy a round. You realise you've just spent most of what you earned that day, you don't really like hangovers and most of the behaviours associated with drinking have become really socially unacceptable. It's not a very enticing proposition is it?
 
Could get 10 (watered down) pints for a fiver when I was a stoodent four nights a week.

Hardly surprising it's massively dropped off given current day pricing.

Pre loading isn't a new thing though at all so it shouldn't be blamed imo. It happened 20 years ago.
 
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