A64 4000 or A64 X2 3800? (Athlon 64 4000 only £95 @ OcUK)

[Iraklis F.C.]

wrong thread, delete

 

[Philbill]

Why are the 3700 Retail San Diego cheaper than the OEM? Would expect it to be the other way around.
Phil

 

[james.miller]

there any official type comment re these - dons?

doubtful. dont get your hopes up

 

[zytok]

A64 3200 - 2ghz 512kb cache
A54 4000 - 2.4ghz 1024kb cache

20% extra clock speed and 100% more cache

so can I reasonably expect 25-30% fps increases or does it not really work like that?

 

[IamMed]

so can I reasonably expect 25-30% fps increases or does it not really work like that?

25-30% is doubtful, you would have a bit of a performance boost but can't give definate figures, depends on the game really and where your system is bottlenecked.

The 4000 will make a difference compared to the 3200 in games and other apps but its performance increase will vary, personally if I had a 3200 still I'd get the 3700 and overclock it.

I've just gone from a X2 3800 to a SD 3700 and in most things its just as fast tbh, and I'm running it at stock atm.

 

[zytok]

ok, after mulling over whether to keep this or not, finally took the plunge and fitted it. 3dMark2005 score on the 3200 8391. Score on the 4000 8800-ish. WTF!?!? That's barely 5%. Sonmething can't be right can it?

 

[james.miller]

seems fine. 3dmark 2005 is largely gpu-bound. Changing your cpu wont do much for it.

 

[IamMed]

ok, after mulling over whether to keep this or not, finally took the plunge and fitted it. 3dMark2005 score on the 3200 8391. Score on the 4000 8800-ish. WTF!?!? That's barely 5%. Sonmething can't be right can it?

What was the CPU scores?

As stated above, performance increase will vary from application to application.

 

[Energize]

4000+ definatley dual core support is practically non-existant.

 

[Fop]

Are the 4000's currently for sale at Ocers:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Socket_939.html

Venice or San diego chips?
I states the are on the 3800s, but not the 4000's just wondering if anyone knew which sort (or where the 4000's only ever the latest?).



Edit - ah never mind I guess with the L2 cashe I've answered my own question.

 

[Angilion]

The 4000s are the old Clawhammer core, which is probably why the core isn't mentioned any more (they were initially wrongly described as being San Diego core).

 

[Fop]

The 4000s are the old Clawhammer core, which is probably why the core isn't mentioned any more (they were initially wrongly described as being San Diego core).

Hmm... that really should be mentioned then if that is the case, as they wouldn't have SSE3.



Edit- although they've added San Deigo to the OEM 4000 now, so I guess they are.

 

[Speed]

Hmm... that really should be mentioned then if that is the case, as they wouldn't have SSE3.



Edit- although they've added San Deigo to the OEM 4000 now, so I guess they are.

You are right there, there is San Deigo on both the normal OEM 4000+ and the "This Week Only" OEM 4000+. So they really do have to be San Deigo cores otherwise it's simple to get your money back.

I was going to order one of the "The Week Only" 4000+ Retail versions until I saw this thread. I think most people here (well at least me, so that's one so far! ) would want the 3 Year Warranty that comes with the Retail version.