Abit IP45 Pro image and feedback of course
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IP45 Pro
Intel P45 Based LGA775 ATX Mainboard, FSB1600
Dual DDR2 1200, Dual X8 CrossFire, SATA RAID, IEEE1394, HD 7.1,
Silent OTES & μGuruTM Tech, Vista Premium HW Ready
Specification:
CPU
Designed for Intel® latest 45nm processors with
1600MHz FSB
Support Intel Core 2 Extreme & Core 2 Quad &
Core 2 Duo & Pentium® Dual Core & Celeron
Dual Core
Chipset
Intel® P45 / ICH10R Chipset
Memory
4 X 240-pin DIMM sockets support max. memory
capacity 8GB
Supports Dual channel DDR2 1200/1066
Un-buffered Non-ECC memory
LAN
On board PCI-E Gigabit LAN controller supports
10/100/1000M Ethernet
Audio
On board 7.1 CH HD Audio CODEC
Optical S/P DIF Out, RCA Out
HDMI Audio ready header
Expansion Slots
2 x PCIE X16 (Support DualX8 CrossFire), 2 x
PCIE X1, 2 x PCI
Internal I/O
1 x Floppy Port supports up to 2.88 MB
1 x ATA 133 IDE connector , 1 x FP-Audio
6 x SATA 3Gb/s connector
2 x IEEE1394, 2 x USB header (support 4 ports)
Back Panel I/O
1 x PS/2 Keyboard
abit OTESTM
1 x S/P DIF Out, 1 x RCA Out, 2 x eSATA
7.1 CH Audio connector (Front, Line-in, MIC-in,
Center/Subwoofer, Surround, Rear Surround)
8 x USB 2.0, 1 x RJ-45 LAN connectors
1 x IEEE1394
EZ CCMOS Button
Serial ATA
6 x SATA 3Gb/s offer by Intel® ICH10R support
Intel® Matrix Storage Tech(AHCI & RAID0/1/5/10)
2 x SATA 3Gb/s offer by JMicron® JMB363
support up to 0,1,JBOD RAID function
IEEE1394
Supports 2 Ports IEEE 1394a at 400Mb/s
abit Engineered
abit μGuruTM Technology
abit Silent OTESTM
100% Low ESR solid capacitor
Quick Power/Reset button
EZ for CCMOS button
Right angle SATA connector
Form Factor
ATX form factor 305 x 245mm
PCB Color: Blue
RoHS
100% lead-free process and RoHS Compliant
Accessory
1 x Driver CD, 1 x English Manual
1 x Jumper Setting Label
1 x IDE cable, 1 x FDD cable, 6 x SATA cable
None of the boards do it for me
I'm a die-hard abit fan, but what I really want is my IP35 PRO with an x48 chipset and another x16 slot. They always ruin the new boards in one way or another
well, an IX38 is basically an IP35 Pro with another physical x16 slot & X48 is just a better binned X38 ...
I wonder if abit will bring out a DDR2 X48?
where's Nathan?
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I like this board but yeah am feeling theres a need to ditch floppy ports, ps2 ports and serial/parallal ports if it has... totaly not needed by todays standards tbh.
And 2 x PCIE X16 (Support DualX8 CrossFire), 2 x
PCIE X1, 2 x PCI, I didnt get that cos surely this boards gonna be priced £100-130 and so an X38 board which is similar in price will still be offering 2 full speed X16 slots in crossfire ? Or am I mistaken ?
I still gotta admit they got the layout done better then the other Abit/Asus X38 boards ive seen, they left a nice gap for that 1st pciexpress slot perfect to put a nice Xonar or soundcard there and then the graphics card can be placed taking up 2-3 slots after a 3rd party cooler no doubt
And 2 x PCIE X16 (Support DualX8 CrossFire), 2 x
PCIE X1, 2 x PCI, I didnt get that cos surely this boards gonna be priced £100-130 and so an X38 board which is similar in price will still be offering 2 full speed X16 slots in crossfire ? Or am I mistaken ?
I still gotta admit they got the layout done better then the other Abit/Asus X38 boards ive seen, they left a nice gap for that 1st pciexpress slot perfect to put a nice Xonar or soundcard there and then the graphics card can be placed taking up 2-3 slots after a 3rd party cooler no doubt
what audio codec(s) does it have? Realtek 889A (24bit/192khz)?
what ethernet codec(s) realtek 8111C?
Also why are you still using push pop springy screws, they give a rubbish contact, use proper screws like some of the other manufacturers are now using. I hope you are using thermal paste on the northbridge and PWM area as the ip35-pro had awful thermal pads: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17870562
I also hope this does better with cpu's on higher multi's.
I'd like to see an IP45-Pro Extreme with a waterblock on pwm/northbridge/southbridge, i'd definately buy 1.
You should have ditched the floppy port and moved the ports further up the board as the sata ports are quite low down, its hard for standard 45nm sata cable to reach to them, end up breaking after a while.
I really hope the PWM/Mofset cooling is better than the ip35-pro as they ran extremely hot, with thermalpaste they dropped about 20c under load and with quads you could get hardly any fsb
Also what do you mean by "online by july 1st week", do you mean the product will be listed on your website then or it will start shipping then or shops will have it by then and it will be on sale?
Are these JMB sata ports were on the ip35-pro and were supposed to be very slow in raid0 compared to the intel, dont via or realtek or sigma or someone produce better ones that you could use?
You have gotten rid of the molex connector on the board i can see, i presume you can use 2 graphics cards fully stable now without it?
im glad you havent joined all the cooling together as for watercooling people that meant you have to get water blocks for every single part. I wish you didnt join the northbridge and southbridge together tho as the southbridge doesnt get too hot, just put a chunky heatsink on it and have the northbridge have the big heatsink all for itself.
what ethernet codec(s) realtek 8111C?
Also why are you still using push pop springy screws, they give a rubbish contact, use proper screws like some of the other manufacturers are now using. I hope you are using thermal paste on the northbridge and PWM area as the ip35-pro had awful thermal pads: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17870562
I also hope this does better with cpu's on higher multi's.
I'd like to see an IP45-Pro Extreme with a waterblock on pwm/northbridge/southbridge, i'd definately buy 1.
You should have ditched the floppy port and moved the ports further up the board as the sata ports are quite low down, its hard for standard 45nm sata cable to reach to them, end up breaking after a while.
I really hope the PWM/Mofset cooling is better than the ip35-pro as they ran extremely hot, with thermalpaste they dropped about 20c under load and with quads you could get hardly any fsb
Also what do you mean by "online by july 1st week", do you mean the product will be listed on your website then or it will start shipping then or shops will have it by then and it will be on sale?
Are these JMB sata ports were on the ip35-pro and were supposed to be very slow in raid0 compared to the intel, dont via or realtek or sigma or someone produce better ones that you could use?
You have gotten rid of the molex connector on the board i can see, i presume you can use 2 graphics cards fully stable now without it?
im glad you havent joined all the cooling together as for watercooling people that meant you have to get water blocks for every single part. I wish you didnt join the northbridge and southbridge together tho as the southbridge doesnt get too hot, just put a chunky heatsink on it and have the northbridge have the big heatsink all for itself.
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imo not going to happen as long as most people are running XP & need to add storage drivers for AHCI/RAID from floppy (most won't make up a slipstream install disk).
I like them where they are as that's where my HDDs are & I use 15cm SATA cables (10cm if I could find them ...).
There will always be someone who doesn't like where something is placed.
60cm cables are available though
./me attacks BUFF with a hedge trimmer!
I have a thermaltake kandalf with drives at top rear and sata optical barely reaches too, the ports should be more towards the centre so everyone is happy. If they included a 64mb flash drive bootable with the sata drivers on then they wouldnt need a floppy port, obviously would have a cost factor but on high end boards that wouldnt be a big problem like the ip45 MAX.
I have a thermaltake kandalf with drives at top rear and sata optical barely reaches too, the ports should be more towards the centre so everyone is happy. If they included a 64mb flash drive bootable with the sata drivers on then they wouldnt need a floppy port, obviously would have a cost factor but on high end boards that wouldnt be a big problem like the ip45 MAX.
I really hope the PWM/Mofset cooling is better than the ip35-pro as they ran extremely hot, with thermalpaste they dropped about 20c under load and with quads you could get hardly any fsb
I agree about the PWM/Mofset cooling. I wet myself one day when my alarms went off when it hit 107 degrees!
I have put a fan on it as a temporary measure until I strip it to remount the heatsink with better thermal paste and/or bolt mod which keeps it down below 70 degrees.
But I disagree about the fsb. My quad is stable at 8 x 475 although too many volts through the cpu to keep it stable at 3.8Ghz for day to day running for my liking. So I was very impressed by the fsb speed or perhaps I'm out of touch (just moved from a 4 year old AMD rig) and there are mobo's out there which can do better than 475fsb with quads?
Bizarrely though I can't get anything over 3.2Ghz stable with the 9x multi. It won't even boot into bios at 3.6Ghz yet with exactly the same voltage settings it will run prime95 for 8 hours at 8 x 450.
I agree with you. I've always thought that about the p45 boards from the day I first read about them. Hopefully they will come down in price as they are meant to replace the p35 boards.
If you look at the Asus p45 range and p35 range on ocuk there is a £40 premium like for like through the range.
That puts them too close to x38 boards although if they do drop over the next few months and become £40 cheaper than a x38 board then they will be a good buy.
However, features are one thing and performance is another. Feature wise they may compare badly to a x38 boards (and even some x48 boards) but if the p45 board will overclock the same cpu by 10% more say (and I am making no claim that it will) and that board has all the slots you need ie only intend to run a single gpu then which one are you going to buy?
So I guess it is time to wait until the reviews to see if they are any good and worth the premium.
If they don't overclock/perform any better than the p35 boards then I would rather keep mine or buy one in preference and save £40.
P35 initially debuted though with IP35 Pro/P5K Dl, P35-DQ6 etc. ~£130 & iirc X38 came in to start with ~£150+?
No doubt Intel has cut the chipset price over it's life.
It's the price premium for being an early adopter for those who must have the latest & greatest.
nb. remember that Intel hasn't ben making X38 chipsets for months so there will only be X38 mobos whilst stocks of chipsets last & X48s are dearer.
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Guess thats true hopefully once P45 boards do arrive they will drop in price but at the sametime to me it still feels pointless cos X38 boards are already here and similar priced, especially if that £99.99 X38 board arrives. At that point it just wont make any sense if theres a motherboard thats better specced and cheaper then the P45 board
I guess the markets spoilt cos theres so much choice within that one chipset, cos u can always get a £60 P35 board and enjoy that or spend £120 on a P35 board....
Nice to have all this choice but its confusing and still doesnt help X38 boards about.
Well I've just sold my X38 ASUS Maximus Formula board cos it can't clock my Q9450 anywhere near as far as my Abit IP35 Pro (440mhz vs 475mhz). And that problem is not just limited to my individual board.
So my choice is either to go for an expensive X48 board or wait for P45, and the early indications are that P45 will clock my Q9450 even better than my P35 board.
So it'll be a P45, with another IP35 Pro in the meantime. And I'm more than happy to own two IP35 Pro's for a few weeks.
So my choice is either to go for an expensive X48 board or wait for P45, and the early indications are that P45 will clock my Q9450 even better than my P35 board.
So it'll be a P45, with another IP35 Pro in the meantime. And I'm more than happy to own two IP35 Pro's for a few weeks.
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Layouts so critical imo, but id personaly woulda wanted 1 pci x1 on the front cos all the new soundcards are pci express and its 100% pointless having them inbetween or after the main pciexpress x16 graphics card cos that just gets in the way especially if u use mamoth 3rd party graphic coolers that take up 60% of the mobo and all the remaining slots
This is the 1st mobo ive seen thats actually thought or catered that, 99% other mobos that have done similar have ruined it with the giant heatsinks on the south/northbridge chipsets or dedicated that 1st pciexpress 1x slot for tiny wireless cards, meaning no space for a proper pciexpress soundcard....
This is just my opinion also but am finding it pointless having slots inbetween the graphic pciexpress x16 slots ?
Am sure people will disaproove but at the end of the day u whack a 9800GX2 on that 1st pciexpress 16x slot its gonna take over the slot thats next to it, and then whos gonna put a card next to that card only to have it either block the fans cooling or melt it ?
My perfect mobo would be
1st slot = pciexpress x1
2nd slot = pci slot or pciexpress x1
3rd slot = pciexpress x16
(space inbetween -taking up 2 slots say)
4th slot =pciexpress x16