It's a slight revision of the same panel... only difference being the back-light, so it seems. No way to know if it's BGR or not though, we'll have to wait and see. I am expecting it probably will be though, in addition to the same issues the Asus had. I see no reason for it to be much different, outside typical panel to panel variations.
Acer Predator CG437K P - 43", 4K, 144Hz, HDR-1000
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It's a slight revision of the same panel... only difference being the back-light, so it seems. No way to know if it's BGR or not though, we'll have to wait and see. I am expecting it probably will be though, in addition to the same issues the Asus had. I see no reason for it to be much different, outside typical panel to panel variations.
BGR is not great for text legibility. If you read the TFT Central review he speaks about this in more detail.
This is a different panel to the Philips and doesn't have PWM, so shouldn't be comparable.
Interesting pricing on the Singapore Acer page as well. This could be THE 1 for me.
Very different to the ASUS 43 4K model with loads more input options, better HDR and more customisation.
Let’s wait for the TFT and PCM reviews. Always worth contributing to TFT reviews as a patron or per review
Better HDR how though? It's just a brighter back light. They are the essentially the same panel, nothing new here. If they mount it the correct way round, that's a bonus for sure, but in regards to its actual performance, it will be a bleeding miracle if it sets itself that far apart from the XG438Q. I'd love to be wrong on this... I was really looking forward to the XG438Q, and found it to be a massive let down, and I expect broadly the same from Acer... even if it improves slightly in a few marginal areas, it won't be enough.
It is a variant of the same panel, but the BGR is related to the way it's mounted... i.e upside down. If mounted the correct way, it would be RGB. But as Azrael says, this has long been the way of assembly for larger TV's, so I don't know if there's any chance the CG437K will be any different to the XG438Q in this regard. The only hope may in the higher price tag, which is certainly not justified just for a brighter backlight, but may be because of extra costs in incurred in ensuring it's RGB. Long shot, but you've got to find a glimmer of hope somewhere amidst the doom and gloom of the PC monitor market lol!
This is not relevant. It's virtually the same panel, just a slightly newer (brighter) revision. In all aspects, on paper anyway, it appears identical, save for the brightness. The XG438Q exhibited all the worst (and most typical) faults of a VA panel, ones that almost all users have reported, so it's hardly limited to just a few bad panels... there is no logical reason to assume a slight revision of the same panel will magically resolve all these (serious) problems, and certainly not enough to justify an even more expensive price tag. HDR-1000 certainly won't be enough if anyone thinks different, the backlight just isn't up to task here. Again assuming it's the same as the Asus which it most likely will be... it certainly isn't FALD anyway.
I'd love to be wrong, as I was very much looking forward to these 43" monitors after years of waiting for something like this... but I strongly suspect the Acer will be a further disappointment.
No reviews yet. Yes it's the same panel as the XG438Q, just slightly revised so as to be that bit brighter. In all aspects, on paper anyway, they are identical. Whether that means they're basically the same monitor in real world performance or not remains to be seen, but I'm struggling to think of two monitors in history that shared the same panel and didn't also share many of the same traits.
Handful in stock on a certain rain-forest, but don't expect they will be there long. I'm guessing it's coming in to the country in very small batches. I only buy monitors from one place with a very friendly and easy return policy, due to the extremely high likelihood of faults (BLB, stuck pixels, dirt etc.). I've gone through close to 20 monitors in the past year trying to find a good one... the search continues...
As far as I'm aware, yes, it supports 120Hz and HDR with Freesync (it's G-Sync compatible) via a single DP 1.4 cable. The limitation is with 144Hz, as this isn't possible over a single DP cable, requiring two, but you therefore give up the HDR/Freesync functionality... that's my understanding anyway. To be honest though, while 144Hz is of course the preference, I doubt many people would notice 24Hz difference, nevermind the fact that pushing that many frames in 4K is nigh on impossible unless you're playing CS:GO or similar games... and if you are THAT serious about high FPS, you wouldn't be looking at a monitor like this in the first place.
The yet to be released Asus XG43UQ gets around this issue by utilising DSC, but I think it's going to come in quite a bit more expensive than the Acer... but perhaps worth waiting to see. We may get more word on that at CES next week.
You won't notice chroma subsampling in games.
Got mine today also. I must say I like it more than I thought I would. Tricky though... I'd agree it's not really worth the £1300 price tag, but then there is no alternative at this size. The 48" OLED LG will have this year is almost certain to come in cheaper, and it will destroy this in all areas... the only problem being the risk of burn-in, which for a dedicated PC monitor is certainly on the high side. Another 5" is a lot though... this is already pretty big on a desk, even at 1m away... 48" might be pushing it, but the obvious advantages of OLED in terms of blacks, motion etc. are tempting for sure. I know I'd be constantly worried about burn-in though.
We'll find out soon enough, but not sure I see that being the case... they won't sell very many at that price, not when you can get a 55" C9 at a little over £1K. Features on the new models won't justify such a price hike, and someone would have to be MIGHTY desperate for 48" to stump up that kind of money... and PC users are an insignificant % in this, needless to say.
I was doing some testing last night on quite a few games and I'd concur... I will return mine because at this price point it's really quite unacceptable. The BGR issue still rears its head on text also, which I do notice. By many accounts it's better than the XG438Q on that front, but an RGB panel would certainly do better.
At this point, for anything in this size range/resolution, the LG 48" OLED is the last hope... let's hope they price it sensibly.