ADATA: 8GB unbuffered DIMMs, get your 8GB unbuffered DIMMs

[PhillyDee]

That lot are just jealous. Ignore them.

This is for the "money isnt a problem" types. People who do (whatever you lot think) need maximum ram. There are a lot of very specific applications which would love this sort of ram on 1 board.

I remember those lovely little shiny orange 2x1gb GeIL DDR2 dimms that were around £220 when I bought a set. Very overclockable, solid as a rock. That was when the C2D first came out. A year later and they were down to £70. I think at one point they dropped to around £40 a pair before shooting back up.

 

[Surveyor]

That lot are just jealous.

Of what exactly?

 

[two00lbwaster]

This is for the "money isnt a problem" types. People who do (whatever you lot think) need maximum ram. There are a lot of very specific applications which would love this sort of ram on 1 board.

Yes, I agree, it's just that I don't think that either gaming or overclocking is one of those maximum memory usage occasions. I guess if you want to swap memory all the time depending on your role usage at the time then you could use this RAM with some faster lower capacity sticks, but personally, that would be such a faff and if I had the money to burn on 32GB of sticks of that RAM then either I'd have a workstation with lots of RDIMMS / ECC UDIMMS or I'd have two PCs, one for each role, overclocking/gaming and high memory usage.

Maybe if Civ 5 had a 64bit version then I'd see a game using over 2GB of RAM and a system usage total of over 5GB of RAM (not counting VMs here).

 

[PhillyDee]

Of what exactly?

That you cannot afford to just spend it and not notice it

 

[Surveyor]

That you cannot afford to just spend it and not notice it

Maybe I can, maybe I can't.

I've no intention of arguing with you if that's the most mature statement you can make.

 

[PhillyDee]

Maybe I can, maybe I can't.

I've no intention of arguing with you if that's the most mature statement you can make.

Seriously, its a tongue in cheek comment. Do you seriously think im pointing at you in particular going "Ha ha, Youre poor" In my best Nelson Muntz voice?

 

[gurusan]

Imagine an HTPC with a 2600k, 16gb of RAM and a GTX580? Only 2 RAM slots usually on those teeny motherboards.

I'm imagining it....and it's performing exactly the same as an HTPC with a 2500K, 4 or 8 GB, and a GTX 580.

I'm with the crowd that says there is absolutely no reason for this product to exist other than to cash in on poor fools who think that bigger is always better.

 

[Muel]

What if 8gb isn't enough? Doesn't have to be a HTPC, it could be that someone wanted to build a compact home server runing multiple VMs.

 

[bhavv]

Money isnt the issue, 1333 Mhz @ Cas 9 is too slow for a dual channel kit.

Sandybrigde gets significant performance gains in games up to 1866 Mhz, and even a little more beyond 2000 Mhz.

Most 4 Gb sticks are currently capable of running around 1866 Mhz.

I'm imagining it....and it's performing exactly the same as an HTPC with a 2500K, 4 or 8 GB, and a GTX 580.

It would actually perform a lot slower with this 2x8 Gb kit than it would with this ram:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=my-061-gs&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1517

sauce:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3_7.html#sect0

You want to try and get at least Cas 9 1866 Mhz for gaming on sandybridge (That G Skill kit above is the only 2x4 Gb set with a good chance of managing 1866 Mhz @ Cas 8, though Cas 9 1866 Mhz for less money is completely fine).

 

[Surveyor]

Sandybrigde gets significant performance gains in games up to 1866 Mhz, and even a little more beyond 2000 Mhz.

And yet other sources say that memory speed makes little difference.

The Best Memory for Sandy Bridge Gaming

 

[Saundie]

This is great news. The main thing that that has put me off of upgrading from my exist system is lack of unbuffered modules larger than 4GB, so it's good to see that they're finally arriving. I've had 16GB in my QX6700 system since early 2009 and I've watched two generations of Core i5/i7 processors pass by because they don't offer a big enough memory upgrade. Being able to go up to 32GB on a dual channel system without having to go for a Xeon workstation is fantastic.

 

[bhavv]

And yet other sources say that memory speed makes little difference.

The Best Memory for Sandy Bridge Gaming

They do conclude getting 1600-1866 Mhz for gaming though.

The price difference on 4 Gb is so small that theres no point getting any slower than 1600 Cas 9 modules, which only cost £50 per 2x4 Gb now.

2x8 Gb would make absolutely no difference in games over 2x4 Gb anyway, most games are still 32 bit too.

 

[Surveyor]

They do conclude getting 1600-1866 Mhz for gaming though.

The price difference on 4 Gb is so small that theres no point getting any slower than 1600 Cas 9 modules, which only cost £50 per 2x4 Gb now.

2x8 Gb would make absolutely no difference in games over 2x4 Gb anyway, most games are still 32 bit too.

And you'll find that in these forums I recommend 1600MHz for Sandy Bridge as the sweet spot for price/performance

 

[bhavv]

In the review you posted though the CPU wasnt overclocked so maybe thats why theres hardly any difference.

Memory Bandwidth is bottlenecked by just about everything else, it probably makes more difference the faster the CPU is.

 

[Surveyor]

In the review you posted though the CPU wasnt overclocked so maybe thats why theres hardly any difference.

Memory Bandwidth is bottlenecked by just about everything else, it probably makes more difference the faster the CPU is.

Do some memory bandwidth benchmarks on a stock and overclocked Sandy Bridge processor and get back to me with the results.

At the moment at OcUK 8GB of 1600MHz RAM is £52.99 and 8GB of 1866MHz RAM is £83.99.

1600MHz is the sweet spot for price/performance.

 

[bhavv]

I dont have sandybridge so cant do that, I would like someone to do it though.

At the moment at OcUK 8GB of 1600MHz RAM is £52.99 and 8GB of 1866MHz RAM is £83.99.

1600MHz is the sweet spot for price/performance.

OFC, you dont buy the latter, you buy the former and overclock it . The only pricey 8 Gb kit I would want is the black G Skill ripjaws because they have the lowest timings, but 1600 Mhz Cas 9 is completely fine for everything out there.

 

[Surveyor]

OFC, you dont buy the latter, you buy the former and overclock it .

If it will overclock enough.

As you don't touch the base clock on Sandybridge the memory can only be set to certain speeds based on the available ratios.

After 1600MHz the next speed available is 1866MHz so it would have to overclock to that or not at all.

 

[bhavv]

Do some memory bandwidth benchmarks on a stock and overclocked Sandy Bridge processor and get back to me with the results.

I just realized that the review I was looking at has done that:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3_7.html#sect0

Look at the Civ V results between the 4.7 Ghz and 3.33 Ghz 2500k.

If it will overclock enough.

If you get the Black Ripjaws, your set to overclock them all the way to 2200+ Mhz:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums...kill-Ripjaws-X-F3-10666CL7D-8GBXH-gets-tested

Thats only the 1333 Mhz kit too, it has the same IC and ram chips as the 1600 kit. I wanted to buy three kits of that stuff, but it wont be any good on X58 because ram doesnt OC anywhere near as well on X58 as it does on P55 or SB.

 

[Scougar]

I think it's great they are doing 8gb unbuffered modules. Pointless in a lot of circumstances... but still good news as now the tech's there and will be fed down the pipeline.