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Ms.

I once talked to soemone who was very specific about this and said it MUST be Ms or else she will be offended, she wasn't married nor did she want to be called Miss and seem immature
 
lozzick said:
Ms.

I once talked to soemone who was very specific about this and said it MUST be Ms or else she will be offended, she wasn't married nor did she want to be called Miss and seem immature
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You should've slapped her then and there as getting offended by that is immature in itself.
 
lozzick said:
Ms.

I once talked to soemone who was very specific about this and said it MUST be Ms or else she will be offended, she wasn't married nor did she want to be called Miss and seem immature
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This the kind of person that writes into the BBC to be offended on other peoples' behalf, no doubt.
 
Miss. As I think Ms sounds daft. Although if I knew their first name I'd use that instead, never had anyone complain and most women are quite happy to be considered single by default!

platypus said:
This the kind of person that writes into the BBC to be offended on other peoples' behalf, no doubt.
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Nail/head etc.
 
If they get offended because you didn't read their mind to know which they preferred, they are obviously extremely unreasonable and probably looking for a reason to be offended. So they'd be offended and aggressive whatever you did. If you could somehow read their mind, they'd have been offended at your intrusion. Even if you ask, they'll probably be offended.

Personally, I'd ask. It usually means that I have to explain the options to her, which always strikes me as weird. How could any adult not already that there are three standard formal means of addressing a woman and no way to determine which one applies?

Or you could refuse to use any of the standard forms of address (Mr, Mrs, Miss or Ms) on the basis that they are archaic references to extreme classism, serfdom or even slavery, and you do not wish to adopt such an extremely inferior position or perpetuate those things in any way. Mr is an abbreviated form of Master and the others are abbreviated forms of Mistress. Mistress as in owner, not the more recent meaning of someone a married man is havig a long-term affair with.

Or address everyone as Doctor, on the basis that people are unlikely to be offended by being addressed that way.
 
Nix said:
One thing I've never seemed to get my head around is: where on earth do you enter your pin? :confused:
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Some very early computers had switches further up that could be flicked up or down in order to enter a number in binary format...
 
Miss or Mrs is fine. Though I would normally go for Miss. I don't don't why but I hate the term Ms. I know why it's supposed to be used, but every woman I met who wanted to be called Ms instead of Mrs or Miss had issues about her marital staus.

I prefer to be called Miss, however, Ms is ok as long as it is the first time I'm being contacted. I hate it when you let people know and they ignore it or when you aren't given the option to choose it (online forms which only let you pick Mr/Mrs/Ms).
 
lozzick said:
Ms.

I once talked to soemone who was very specific about this and said it MUST be Ms or else she will be offended, she wasn't married nor did she want to be called Miss and seem immature
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Ms. is a horrible creation. For every woman like that, there will be fifty who would rather be flattered by being called Miss than be made to feel awkwardly unfeminine by being called Ms.
 
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