Adobe Flash Player 10 problems on Safari (Leopard)

Logsi · 23 Apr 2009 at 18:42

rp2000 said:
It is bizarre that so few people mention such problems on Mac tbh. At the end of the day Flash video is one of the big new things on the web last few years and most people use it at some point. You think all the other mac users here never spotted the problems or they keeping quiet for some reason?

rp2000

I'm not sure, i have noticed the stuttering with right clicking for years though. I thought Leopard may improve it, it didn't, i hoped that browser revisions would fix it, it didn't and also the obvious flash updates which also didn't fix it.

Try this for me a second, while a youtube vid is playing, click on the toolbar and see if it skips and stutters? It should, now click the desktop so the finder is be used, now click the toolbar menu and see now? It doesn't skip!?!? Weird :-/

Also, another one is GIF images, gif images suck on macs :-/

One thing i have just noticed on the 17" is that the screen is horrendously awful, got this background on it, and it looks terrible, all the colours merge into each other and it doesn't look right.

rp2000 · 23 Apr 2009 at 20:02

Logsi said:
I'm not sure, i have noticed the stuttering with right clicking for years though. I thought Leopard may improve it, it didn't, i hoped that browser revisions would fix it, it didn't and also the obvious flash updates which also didn't fix it.

Try this for me a second, while a youtube vid is playing, click on the toolbar and see if it skips and stutters? It should, now click the desktop so the finder is be used, now click the toolbar menu and see now? It doesn't skip!?!? Weird :-/

Also, another one is GIF images, gif images suck on macs :-/

One thing i have just noticed on the 17" is that the screen is horrendously awful, got this background on it, and it looks terrible, all the colours merge into each other and it doesn't look right.

What do you mean by "toolbar" The Menu? I play the video and clicked it but nothing changes? If I right click the toolbar I get stutter (but we did hat already).

Are you wanting me to focus another application like Finder and have youtube still visible? (i.e. let the toolbar show Finder menu, but have no finder windows open and Safari visible). I have done that and it does not affect playback. Even in Expose normal videos do not skip.

rp2000

Logsi · 23 Apr 2009 at 20:18

rp2000 said:
What do you mean by "toolbar" The Menu? I play the video and clicked it but nothing changes? If I right click the toolbar I get stutter (but we did hat already).

Are you wanting me to focus another application like Finder and have youtube still visible? (i.e. let the toolbar show Finder menu, but have no finder windows open and Safari visible). I have done that and it does not affect playback. Even in Expose normal videos do not skip.

rp2000

I mean the tool bar as in the translucent bar at the very top with battery info, time and application etc. If you click on the toolbar (with it saying safari next to the apple logo) with a youtube vid playing it'll skip like when you right click but if you click to the desktop so that it says finder in the corner and again click the tool bar menu e.g. file, edit...it won't skip...

rp2000 · 23 Apr 2009 at 21:14

Logsi said:
I mean the tool bar as in the translucent bar at the very top with battery info, time and application etc. If you click on the toolbar (with it saying safari next to the apple logo) with a youtube vid playing it'll skip like when you right click but if you click to the desktop so that it says finder in the corner and again click the tool bar menu e.g. file, edit...it won't skip...

Clicking the toolbar makes no difference, or video issues. Selecting a Safari Menu DOES (is that what you meant) But I expect this as this is same as the right click problem, the focused application has a menu over it using fancy OS X graphical crap which slows down the video.

The reason it will not affect you when Finder is focused (which I Alt+Tab for as my Safari is maximised) is because the problem is not with right click/menus in general, just Safari's menu and video playing at the same time whilst Safari is the active application. (Almost like Safari cannot cope with so much at once).

I will agree that it defies logic that Flash video almost seems to work "better" when Safari is not the highlighted application, but I think this is a Safari, not Adobe issue.

rp2000

Logsi · 23 Apr 2009 at 21:24

Cool. Got there in the end. I'm not great at describing things!

Yeah, it's annoying. I hope it gets sorted. My betting is it won't. Gonna look into why my 1080p video is stuttering also.

rp2000 · 30 Jul 2009 at 22:06

Thought I would bump this and see if people have the same issues still (seeing as OS X and Safari have both updated since this thread began).

Can anyone try these ones for me?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00lyqrt/hd/Dragons_Den_Series_7_Episode_3/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00lyljl/hd/Coast_Series_4_Lands_End_to_Porthcawl/
Watching the first 20 seconds of Coast fullscreen and in browser you can really see the performance difference, and it baffles me.

On my MacBookPro, both stutter/judder slightly when windowed, but it is 100% OK in fullscreen. Fans were on maximum within 3 minutes

rp2000

FreeStream · 30 Jul 2009 at 22:51

Windowed: Buggered
Fullscreen: Fine.
Fans: 3000RPM after 15 seconds.
Model: June 2007 2.4Ghz 15"
Not good!

rp2000 · 30 Jul 2009 at 23:16

Concorde Rules said:
Windowed: Buggered
Fullscreen: Fine.
Fans: 3000RPM after 15 seconds.
Model: June 2007 2.4Ghz 15"
Not good!

Can you try it on your Mac Pro? I am just wondering if the fans in the laptops are oversensitive, or whether h.264 video in flash player makes the CPU work so hard in OS X that the fans go mental (I am assuming this is because in Mac no GPU acceleration can be used for video playback, whereas in windows it can).

My model is Feb 2008, 2.5Ghz 15"

rp2000

Spyhop · 31 Jul 2009 at 00:37

Looks like it's simply cranking the CPU. I had a look at CPU usage while playing in windowed mode and Safari was using almost all of both cores (2.8 GHz)

Will_3rd · 31 Jul 2009 at 11:57

Both judder still (Coast a little less though) and make the CPU work overtime (high temps too!)

As above it uses both Cores of my CPU to almost max.

Mr_White · 1 Aug 2009 at 03:05

OS X seems to have some issues with flash all together, flash advert banners can cause enough CPU usage to ramp the fans up (sometimes to max), so when you present it with HD content via flash, it has even more issues.

No idea what it is with flash, but it's been happening for years and it happens to a lot of people, it doesn't like it at all.