ADSL Telephone cable

mo786

mo786

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Hi
I need to buy some telephone cable for :

An ADSL wire
An actual telephone wire

I notice a certain high street retailer sells the cable in 2 variants

CW1308 and CW1311

The CW1311 being flat

Now as I need the stuff to go under carpet the flat one sounds good

Will it do what I need it to do or is it somehow different?

Does anyone have both types of cable to be able to tell/show me the differences?

Also if we are allowed can anyone recommend a cheap place to buy this cable and soem CAT5 cable?

Thanks
 
The 2 cable variants CW1308 and CW1311 are both BT specifications for telephone wiring. Both types are suitable for what you need but as you are running under carpet the flat type is most suitable.

Keep in mind that you want to keep the cable run from the main socket to your ADSL modem as short as possible as this is prone to interference and could reduce your overall ADSL speed. My solution to this was to place the modem next to the phone socket on a short connection and run a long ethernet cable to the pc. Ethernet cables can be upto 100m in length so if you need to cover the distance from the phone socket to the PC this is the better solution. Flat ethernet cable is available but looks to be a bit more expensive than standard ethernet cable.
 
Someone may correct me if I'm wrong here but you could just use Cat5e for all your phone cabling too.

I'm pretty sure this is what we did as we have dual faceplates in most of the rooms in the house with a RJ45 port for ethernet and a RJ11 port for phone.

You can buy drums of Cat5e online pretty cheap from most of the big tool retailers. Going rate is about £30 for a 300m drum last time I checked.
 
If it's flat it most likely isn't twisted pair, so you're going to want to keep the run as short as you possibly can.
 
tolien said:
If it's flat it most likely isn't twisted pair, so you're going to want to keep the run as short as you possibly can.
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It depends on the type of flat cable you use. Flat ethernet cable should be designed to adhere to the ethernet specs but might have restrictions on maximum length. It's probably similar with the flat phone cable.
 
QuantumXP said:
Flat ethernet cable should be designed to adhere to the ethernet specs but might have restrictions on maximum length. It's probably similar with the flat phone cable.
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Er, that's what I said - if it isn't twisted pair it'll be considerably more susceptible to interference, so you're going to want to keep the run as short as possible.

If you use decent quality twisted pair cable it doesn't really matter (within reason) how long it is between the socket and your router - the cable between you and the exchange is hundreds (if not thousands) of metres anyway.
 
Right I will go for the flat stuff if I can get it twisted pair otherwise the normal stuff

I am also plannign on running a long ethernet cable as well so buyign loads of that might save me some hassle

Question is can I just use normal ethernet cable as telephone cable as well?

i.e run the ethernet cable as I would the telephone cable but just stick the telephone/rj11 connector on the end instead of the rj45 (i thin kthats the network connector) - wouldnt the wire be to fat for an rj11 if it is designed for the ematier rj45?
 
sorry to be a pain - here is what i am trying to achieve

Upstairs bedroom contains the router. I need a wire going downstairs to connect it to the BT socket for internet.

My mums room is next to mien and she also needs a telephone wiregoing downstairs for the phoen in her bedroom

From my room i also want a ethernet cable going downstairs to a HTPC we have i nthe lviing room

Is there anyway i can use cat 5 only to make this happen? i'd prefer layign down as little wiring as possible so anyway to eliminate a need for osme of the wiring would be useful

in my diagram the blue is the ethernet cable and the orange normal telephone cable

diagram:



http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/3858/pciu0.jpg
 
How many pc's do you need to connect? If it is only 2 (1 upstairs, 1 downstairs) then I would put the router next to the phone socket and run 1 ethernet cable to the upstairs pc and a phoneline extension upstairs to the other bedroom. Then run the other ethernet from the router to the HTPC.

This way you only have 2 cables running up the stairs rather than 3.

UTP - Unsheilded Twisted Pair
FTP - Foil Sheilded Twisted Pair
 
You could run one cable from the master socket then filter upstairs, splitting the (unfiltered) ADSL side to your modem and using the filtered voice side for the phone.

Ethernet cable would be better than flat, because it's twisted pair too.
 
Right

Downstairs I have a PC - it is also easy to access the BT master socket from down there. So I may move my router downstairs now.

That means I can run 1 long ethernet cable upstairs to my own room

I will laos need the telephone wire for my mums telephone

so that does cut it down to 2 wires

BUT I do have a 3rd room upstairs i would like to get internet to now as well! (not on the diagram)

coudl i use sockets to make the job easier? coudl i run the ehternet upstairs to one central location with a socket and then have 2 internets and 1 telephone available for the 3 rooms? would i have to run 3 seperate ethernet cables for that or can 1 ethernet cable carry more than 1 internet signal?
 
How do the smaller rj11 conenctions fit onto the ethernet cable?

Also the ethernet cbale has 2 wires together - unliek normal telephone cable so i cannot see them fitting in the rj11 connector - am i meant to use some sort of adaptor instead?
 
just going back to a point about TELEPHONE wire

Would standard telephone wire be the same as flat telephone wire? i.e noen of them are twisted pair - for exmaple ****** sell both and they both look the same... ?
 
Normal extension cable isn't typically twisted pair. UTP is (as the name suggests), and good cable from some competitors is.
 
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