ADSL Wallplate

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I received my new switch today so I thought I'd install my new ADSL XTE-2005 plate to my master socket and move my router downstairs. However, when I removed the cover from the master socket there were no cables attached to it (see photos):




The only loose cable I can see is what I think is the ringer cable (white orange orange/white). The other cables are connected via some sort of plastic connection.

I currently run my internet from an extension socket in our main bedroom to another socket in my spare room where my pc is. This socket has a filtered faceplate on it. These sockets were in the house when we bought it, the previous owner was an ex BT bloke and he had sockets in almost every room.

What can I do with the cables in my master socket? I don't want to start cutting the plastic clips off in case I bugger it all up.
 
on the last pic it looks as tho hes hooked up the white/blue and blue/white as the feed wires for the extensions without connecting to the faceplate on the master socket itself.

as i see it if check the socket in the main bedroom, it should have the white/blue and blue/white going into the points needed (iirc its 2 & 5), just need to confirm which is 2 & 5 then match them up to the points on your new faceplate.

if you can't match those wires up with the main bedroom then theres a chance its being fed from somewhere else and you'll need to check the other phone points.
 
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the adsl nation face plate will just fit onto the master socket anyhow. You dont need to touch any wires.
Unless you are taking a feed off of the IDC terminals at the back of the adsl nation faceplate (done the same this morning myself) Then there will be 6 punchdowns on the back, x3 phone x2 adsl + (1 unused).
 
Magic_x_uk said:
the adsl nation face plate will just fit onto the master socket anyhow. You dont need to touch any wires.
Unless you are taking a feed off of the IDC terminals at the back of the adsl nation faceplate (done the same this morning myself) Then there will be 6 punchdowns on the back, x3 phone x2 adsl + (1 unused).
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Just tried it by putting the faceplate on and can't get a signal. As soon as I put it back on the extension it's fine. So I disconnected the cables from the extension faceplate to see if that helped and still nothing. Connected the extension back up and it's working again.

The master socket does work, got my phone attached to it.

The extension in my spare room runs off the extension in the main bedroom. I had a look at that plate and that's not connected either, just got those plastic connectors on like the master socket has.

Not sure where to go from here so might have to leave it as it is. I just wanted to run my rouoter from the master socket to see if I got any speed increase.
 
yeah was just curious what with you saying previous owner was a bt man. Very odd it wont work. when you plug the adsl nation face plate in, if you attach a phone do you get a dial tone from it?
 
Done a bit more investigating and these are the photos from the extension in the main bedroom:





I looked on google and came across a site that said the master socket usually has a capacitor on the back of it. The one downstairs doesn't but this one does but once again it's not connected to any wires. You can see the cable coming through the hole in one of the pics and that comes from downstairs. The other wire in the box is the one that goes though the roof space to the spare room where my pc is.

Right, last pic!! This is a photo of the back of my master socket (should have shown this in the first place):



Does this make any more sense?
 
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When you say extension socket which you currently run your ADSL off now.. are any of the pictures posted a picture of that socket?

Failing that, the last picture with the cable clipped down the wall.. where does that cable go to?
 
Deaco said:
When you say extension socket which you currently run your ADSL off now.. are any of the pictures posted a picture of that socket?

Failing that, the last picture with the cable clipped down the wall.. where does that cable go to?
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Basically, the cable (in master socket downstairs) in post #1 is joined to another cable that goes into the extension in post #10 (upstairs). Another cable is joined to this one and this cable then goes through the loft to the spare room where it connects to a faceplate with wires 2 & 5. My RJ11 cable is then plugged into this and then into my router.
 
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Ok but what colour wires are connected on 2+5 in the bedroom with the router.. is it the solid coloured cable or it the standard white BT cable? Is there any other cables jointed in there?

Do you need to use a filter with your broadband socket?

How many cables are going into the master socket as it looks like there's two, one's going up stairs to the bedroom, where's the other one going?

Just trying to figure out from the pics why and where all these joints are going..
 
on the picture of your master socket you have the green/white and white/green, those show up on your bedroom picture with them matched to green and brown, do the green and brown run to your extension in the other room ?
 
mp260767 said:
on the picture of your master socket you have the green/white and white/green, those show up on your bedroom picture with them matched to green and brown, do the green and brown run to your extension in the other room ?
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I've looked at the sockets again so here goes.

The master socket with cable from outside is connected as follows:

White/Green - B terminal on back of master socket
Green/White - A terminal on back of master socket
White/Orange - Not connected
Orange/White - Not connected

Blue/White - connected to cable going upstairs to main bedroom
White/Blue - connected to cable going upstairs to main bedroom

The Green/White & White/Green wires from the cable going upstairs wires are not connected to anything.

Main bedroom extension is as follows:

Orange/White - Not connected
White/Orange - Not connected
White/Green - connected to solid green on cable going to spare room
Green/White - connected to solid brown on cable going to spare room
Blue/White - connected to solid blue on cable going to spare room
White/Blue - connected to solid orange on cable going to spare room

The cable going from the main bedroom to the spare room has different cable from the others - solid green/brown/blue/orange

Spare room extension:

Solid Green - connected to terminal 2 on faceplate
Solid Brown - connected to terminal 5 on faceplate

I'm hoping this makes a bit more sense now!
 
unless im missing something obvious then there is something not right.

looking at the first picture in post 10 that looks as tho the green/white and white/green go into the plastic covers with solid brown/green, which are the same as green/white and white/green from he master socket, or are those other different wires ?

what happens to the solid blue/orange that goes to the bedroom with the solid brown/green ?

do you get a signal on the router if you plug it into the test socket on the master socket downstairs ?
 
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mp260767 said:
unless im missing something obvious then there is something not right.

looking at the first picture in post 10 that looks as tho the green/white and white/green go into the plastic covers with solid brown/green, which are the same as green/white and white/green from he master socket, or are those other different wires ?

The cable in post 10 is the extension cable that comes from the master socket. The green/white & white/green ends are not connected to anything in the master socket.

what happens to the solid blue/orange that goes to the bedroom with the solid brown/green ?

Nothing, they are not connected to anything in the spare room. Just the green & brown are used.

do you get a signal on the router if you plug it into the test socket on the master socket downstairs ?

No I don't. I was trying my new router downstairs to see if I could get any better speeds from the master socket so when I couldn't get a signal I looked at all the sockets and started this thread.
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It's all starting to get a bit confusing now! I've no idea what's been done but my broadband works.
 
"The cable in post 10 is the extension cable that comes from the master socket. The green/white & white/green ends are not connected to anything in the master socket."

in the first pic yeah i understand that , but in the last pic in post 10 they are linked to the test socket in the master socket.

with the rest of the pics that would make sense why you have internet, as they link up to the main bedroom and the solid brown/green they connect with provide the socket in the other bedroom with internet.

but its stuffed by the fact u get no signal off the test socket :(,the only thing i can think is that the test socket is faulty, as there do not appear to be any other wires that go all the way through to the room with internet.
 
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It looks like you have two separate lines, one on the blue pair and one on the green. I'd have thought you'd know if that was the case though.

Does you phone work from all of the sockets?

[edit]Or... gah! My brain hurts trying to make heads or tails of this :p
 
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Doug said:
It looks like you have two separate lines, one on the blue pair and one on the green. I'd have thought you'd know if that was the case though.

Does you phone work from all of the sockets?

[edit]Or... gah! My brain hurts trying to make heads or tails of this :p
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Same here! I only use my phone off the master socket downstairs so never need to try the other sockets.
 
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