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salami1212

salami1212

salami1212

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Say for the sake of the argument, that there is a 100% certainty that there is intelligent life out there (imo logic dictates it to be true anyways given the amount of time the universe has been around).

Now this intelligent life will either be technologically behind us or ahead of us.

Now surely the most advanced of those alien species would have technology which was so advanced that they are probably using energy harnessed straight from the vaccum creating enormous power. Also, (and I wish there was a better word) that could in theory have technology so advanced as to 'manipulate' other beings, maybe through electronic signals fired into the brain or whatever.

And yes, it is so easy to dismiss UFO sightings as nutjobs on the loose again but when countless numbers of people claim they have seen them, then it becomes harder to dismiss. Also, it can hardly be a coincidence that certain military bases around the world are guarded at such a high level.

IMO it does seem likely that we have been visited and people at the top do know a lot more than they choose to give out. Reasons, who knows, but I can hazard a guess. We have massive capabilities, I mean, just check out the water powered car:

Coincidentally, the guy who invented it died. Apparently the day after signing a deal to the government.

Anyways, these are just a few thoughts from a 'nutjob' so thought I would share them.
 
Glaucus said:
Yep you are a nut job.
What to discuss. No we aren't being visited.
Sightings can be explained. In the uk files what was 75% are miss identification, 10% something else explainable and 5% that are curiouser and need better reserch. There's also natural phanomenia and top secret projects.

As for murdered, no he wasn't, there was no deal. Just read wiki for a start.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Meyer's_water_fuel_cell
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Agreed I am.

How do you know?

What about the 5%?

Do you believe everything you read on wiki?
 
bJN said:
So you're proposing that, as an example, this alien species would have the know-how and man power to artificially create a miniature black hole that can be manipulated to only consume one half of an electron pair, thereby forcing the second of the pair to remain into existence rather than dissipate as per a vacuum requires? And then harness this energy which we, as humans, are still undecided whether it is miniscule (nano-joules) or incredibly large (mega-joules)?

I'm out.
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When the atom was first discovered, do you think they believed you could split it and create enormous energy from it?

Thought you were out last post? :p
 
Glaucus said:
There's no evidence, not one little scrap, nothing.

5% further reserch, be it natural, classified aircraft etc


No I don't belive everything I read on wiki, but your claims on the water guy are so silly, wiki is all that is needed.
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Thousands of witnesses is not evidence? Certain videos?

Have you done any research or are you just spitting out dogma so as not to be labelled a nutjob?

I dont see why they would be silly? It seems perfectly feasible that certain large corporations with vested interests in petroleum would not want a fuel source of this kind mainstreamed.
 
Glaucus said:
They do want such fuel, they are heavily invested in fuel cell technology.
This isn't some radical free and easy power source. The water might be, but the metals and compounds of the fuel cell are not. It's not a miracle fuel like you seem to think.
Power companies do want this tech and are reserching. Everything you say is rubbish.

It's you who hasn't done the reserch.

Certain films? Of what glowing balls. Growing theories on naturally occurring glowing balls.

Thousands of people, however eyewitnesses are inherit neatly unreliable, well studied brain error about perception, due to our brains taking short cuts and prioritising. Simple one is have you ever seen a really big moon? Well the moon absent suddenly got closer, it's our brain using short tricks to process the info and thus leads to incorrect info.
Then there's the witness unfamiliarity with a lot of flying stuff, let alone top secret.

On top of that no alien radio waves, no spikes in energy have been detected, no signs at all.
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I never claimed they didn't want the power source. But if they have a system based around a limited supply of oil, water power would totally destroy that system, leading to no profits? How can you not see that? They are invested in oil countless times more than fuel cell technology.

Just look at the countless and countless videos on youtube of people inventing their own hydrogen fuel cells. Do you really think that people are hoaxing these videos to gain 1k views on their youtube accounts? Come onnn! Be real!

And im sorry but that moon analogy is irrelavant. Theres a difference between optical illusions and seeing an object.

About the radio waves and energy spikes, what makes you think they would be using radio waves?
 
Glaucus said:
The profits change, the profits no longer are from the fuel, they change to the fuel cell and the engineering and materials contained within the fuel cell.

Wtf has hydrogen fuel cells got to do with your stupid claims?
Hydrogen is not water.
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The profits decrease.

The water powered car uses electrolysis to split the oxygen and hydrogen and uses the hydrogen to fuel the car. Something like that, so I just said hydrogen.

And they are not my stupid claims, I am just giving forth evidence whereas you have non to disprove the technology except your blind 'stupid' faith.
 
Glaucus said:
The water powered car was a hoax to make money, he even lost a court case.
That is basic physics.
You have to put in the energy to break the bonds, you can't eat more energy out than in.
Yes they are your stupid claims. A water fuel cell is drastically different to a hydrogen fuel cell. A hydrogen fuel cell is taking hydrogen and oxygen and creating water and this releasing energy,
A water fuel cell you have to break the water into hydrogen and oxygen then recombine them, you won't get more energy out than you put in.

These relay are retarded claims, supported by nothing, but what you've read on CT sites.
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Ok, so because he lost a court case he is suddenly lieing?

Im not claiming to know much about these technologies. Water powered utilising hydrogen ie hydrogen power ie hydrogen fuel is same same in my eyes. Maybe some mechanics are different but that is all technicalities which you are picking at. I dont think you know anything about these technologies..

And if what im saying is true, why would there be masses of evidence broadcasted everywhere? There wouldnt.

I think its retarded that people live in little bubbles believing everything they watch and read on the news. And I think also, its quite sad when people dont realise that they defend such an unbelievably corrupt system which is only out to get them. Its the equivalent of punching yourself in the face in a fist fight with someone else.
 
Glaucus said:
It's a well knowen scam, it's one of those kits you can buy on ebay, it's just electrolysis and takes more power than it gives out.

http://www.aardvark.co.nz/hho.shtml

But the op, after doing no reserch belives it and it couldn't possibly be a scam.
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Yes because quite clearly the guy I linked bought a kit. Not the fact that from his first vid to his last was a space of 2 years. Bit of a waste of time dont you think if it was all lies?
 
Blue160 said:
The first law of thermodynamics is not a technicality! You obviously don't understand enough about physics to understand why a perpetual motion machine (which is effectively what you are talking about) is impossible.
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Whoever said anything about perpetual motion?

Apparently a battery is used in the engine.

bJN said:
You're missing the fact that it is not physically (read scientifically) possible. :rolleyes:
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How can you even say that it is 'impossible'. That is the most ridiculous load of crap ive ever heard.
 
OhEsEcks said:
Do you know what's retarded? Conspiracy theorists and their ilk. Trying to reason with them is like trying to reason with the religious. Eventually, they stick their fingers in their ears and start proclaiming "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU" or they start screaming about how you're in on the conspiracy to.

The most insulting thing about conspiracy theorists is how many more people are far more knowledgable in particular fields than they will ever be. That's why they've got the PhD in that field and aren't making videos on youtube or believe everything they've watched on youtube or read on Alex Jones website. It's insulting to everyone who has ever put the work in to get where they are in their field. It's insulting to insinuate that those people, who've devoted their entire lives to understanding how something in their field works, are somehow in on some great conspiracy to keep it hidden from a minority of tin foil hat wearing retards.

Everything Carl Sagan said was a lie. He was a lizard man keeping unlimited energy suppressed to keep the oil companies in business.
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And honestly, this is just silly. Im listening, and yes a lot of conspiracy theorists are idiots aka David icke.

See that is the problem with non conspiracy theorists. You lable everyone the same. Lizard believing tin foil wearing freaks. Well actually, I lable blind puppets as retards who by believing in everything theyre told will achieve nothing useful.
 
OhEsEcks said:
You're not listening though. You've been told repeatedly it's ********. And yet you're still rabbiting on about how it's not. Despite the fact the whole scam was run through the courts.

If you're listening, you're only listening to what you want to hear. You label people blind puppet retards for believing in everything they're told (which you do)? As opposed to blind puppet retards who spend their life getting degrees in specialised fields and becoming experts in those fields who know considerably more than you?
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My word. The water power uses a battery so its not perpetual. Please at least do some research on all these 'conspiracies' and see the amount of experts in their fields who back up these 'conspiracy' claims.

Its not just backyard engineers who believe a lot of this stuff. Its intelligent folk with degrees and respectful jobs.

And wow, seriously. The courts are corrupt as **** and if you cannot see that then I dont really know what to say.

Just do some of your own research, not one crappy video made with some awful commentary. Check out the freedom movie, or zeitgiest. Theres many.
 
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