Advice for first time VR user please.

pastymuncher

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The wife is looking at buying me a VR headset for Christmas and I was looking at the Pico Neo Link 3 or Pico 4. The budget is £300-400. I am not interested in anything to do with Meta. Will my pc (specs in siggy) be up to the job? Are the Pico's good for gaming with? The sort of games I like to play are driving games such as ETS2/ATS along with racing simulators, a few FPS games, Train Simulator/Train Sim World 3 although I am not sure that they support VR. I have very little knowledge of how it all works and presume that a game need to have a VR version to work with these headset and controllers? Thank you in advance for any information and/or tips.
 
pastymuncher said:
The wife is looking at buying me a VR headset for Christmas and I was looking at the Pico Neo Link 3 or Pico 4. The budget is £300-400. I am not interested in anything to do with Meta. Will my pc (specs in siggy) be up to the job? Are the Pico's good for gaming with? The sort of games I like to play are driving games such as ETS2/ATS along with racing simulators, a few FPS games, Train Simulator/Train Sim World 3 although I am not sure that they support VR. I have very little knowledge of how it all works and presume that a game need to have a VR version to work with these headset and controllers? Thank you in advance for any information and/or tips.
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Any particular reason you don't want a Meta headset?

EDIT: Of the two headsets you mentioned, the Pico 3 Neo Link is probably the best headset for you, if you can get a good one. However, if the reason you aren't interested in buying a Meta headset is the reason that I think it is, then you definitely don't want to buy a Pico headset either.
 
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@melmac
Thanks for mentioning that
Had been considering vr myself
Didn't like the quest for probably same reasons
As pastymuncher
But looks like the pico might also
Be off my list too now
I guess that's why those 2 fall into that price range
Get you with the low price and decent headset
But you have to sacrifice your privacy etc
 
Yeah which version of privacy invasion do you want to deal with? Bytedance who own TickTock or Meta who own Facebook.

SteamVR headsets like the Index, HTC Vive Pro, and the Bigscreen Beyond might be better from a privacy perspective but you'll pay a lot more for them.

Really the best headset to get now is the Quest 3, but you do need a Meta account and a phone app to use it.
 
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pastymuncher said:
The wife is looking at buying me a VR headset for Christmas and I was looking at the Pico Neo Link 3 or Pico 4. The budget is £300-400. I am not interested in anything to do with Meta. Will my pc (specs in siggy) be up to the job? Are the Pico's good for gaming with? The sort of games I like to play are driving games such as ETS2/ATS along with racing simulators, a few FPS games, Train Simulator/Train Sim World 3 although I am not sure that they support VR. I have very little knowledge of how it all works and presume that a game need to have a VR version to work with these headset and controllers? Thank you in advance for any information and/or tips.
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ETS2/ATS both support VR, not sure if any of the mainstream flatscreen FPS or Train Simulator do, there's several decent made for VR FPS games, most of the well known flatscreen racing sims support VR.
 
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Craig R said:
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Thing is, it doesn't stop there, but this is true of any platform. Yes the email may be a fake, but your IP address is still recorded, your searches likely tracked, cookies on websites and trackers on ads etc. You could have a completely clean meta account, but the headset would be linked with the rest of your behaviour soon enough. However, there's not much to do about that in my mind, and in the end, I'm not exciting enough for it to really matter...
 
What has TikTok got to do with Pic VR headsets? I thought the only software you install is Pico Link or Streaming Assistant? Why does Meta require you to have a app on your phone as well as the pc? This forum is the closest thing I get to social media and that is not going to change, ever!! My information is just that, mine. What I do on my computer is nothing to do with anyone else. If they value it so much they can bloody well pay me for it which will never happen.
 
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What has TikTok got to do with Pic VR headsets? I thought the only software you install is Pico Link or Streaming Assistant? Why does Meta require you to have a app on your phone as well as the pc? This forum is the closest thing I get to social media and that is not going to change, ever!! My information is just that, mine. What I do on my computer is nothing to do with anyone else. If they value it so much they can bloody well pay me for it which will never happen.
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Pico is owned by Bytedance who own TikTok. If you can't trust Meta with your privacy you certainly can't trust Bytedance, who are controlled by the CCP.
 
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What has TikTok got to do with Pic VR headsets? I thought the only software you install is Pico Link or Streaming Assistant? Why does Meta require you to have a app on your phone as well as the pc? This forum is the closest thing I get to social media and that is not going to change, ever!! My information is just that, mine. What I do on my computer is nothing to do with anyone else. If they value it so much they can bloody well pay me for it which will never happen.
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Are you getting big cheques from google and microsoft when you use their search engines?
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pastymuncher said:
I thought the only software you install is Pico Link or Streaming Assistant?
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That's all i did with my 3 link, don't know if the 4 is different as i don't have one. No sign up to anything, just install the pico link software on you're desktop, click start on either DP or Wireless.

Ats/Euro are both fantastic in VR, i have many hours in both. Somebody is working on Train Sim World in VR, that should release with the Unreal VR framework before the end of the year. https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/train-sim-world-vr-praydog-mod.60428/

I do recommend Derail Valley if you like the trains, originally build for VR, it's brilliant.


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Derail Valley on Steam

Drive massive trains and build your career in a vast open railway network. For both PC and VR.
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Unseul said:
Thing is, it doesn't stop there, but this is true of any platform. Yes the email may be a fake, but your IP address is still recorded, your searches likely tracked, cookies on websites and trackers on ads etc. You could have a completely clean meta account, but the headset would be linked with the rest of your behaviour soon enough. However, there's not much to do about that in my mind, and in the end, I'm not exciting enough for it to really matter...
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However that is also true of any eletronic device that you connect to the internet. If the OP is that paranoid about tracking and data, then presumably they don't own a PC that's connected to the internet? don't own a mobile phone? or any other electronic device like a tablet. Even cars these days are always connected, so really you should only own older cars.

In today's society It's basically impossible unless you are a complete luddite, to not have a digital footprint that can be tracked.

Best not to worry too much and live, but things like using different emails for different accounts.. and not your real name on things.. makes it all more difficult for the big boys to put it all together.
 
I'm of the view point i don't care about my data and afaik it's never harmed me. I'm not diminishing other opinions on this, just stating i've never been harmed by whoever collecting data on me. I literally don't care. Here you go Google, have that bit of info about me :)
 
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However that is also true of any eletronic device that you connect to the internet. If the OP is that paranoid about tracking and data, then presumably they don't own a PC that's connected to the internet? don't own a mobile phone? or any other electronic device like a tablet. Even cars these days are always connected, so really you should only own older cars.

In today's society It's basically impossible unless you are a complete luddite, to not have a digital footprint that can be tracked.

Best not to worry too much and live, but things like using different emails for different accounts.. and not your real name on things.. makes it all more difficult for the big boys to put it all together.
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Exactly. If you've used google maps, or waze etc, then companies will likely be able to confirm your home address, along with local IP, phone service provider, that you're a car owner etc. The extremes you'd have to go to, to not leave a trace is crazy. As long as you aren't stupid and publicly displaying that info to problematic individuals/groups, you're OK.

The biggest issue so many people probably have, are replying to those stupid, "post the gif of your birth year" "Your porn name is your first pet followed by your first teachers name". Crazy how much personal info, that can be used dangerously, people jokingly give away.
 
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This forum is the closest thing I get to social media and that is not going to change, ever!!
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You don't need to connect a Meta headset to social media if you don't want to.

My previous post still stands, if you are that worried about Privacy and security then buying a headset from Bytedance is as bad or probably worse than buying from Meta.
 
Based on your budget and your privacy concerns, there aren't a lot of options out there.

Look for a second hand Valve Index or Reverb G2 (the V2 version) If your main use is driving Sims, then you won't care about controllers.

However, after moving to Pancake lenses I could never go back to Fresnel lenses.
 
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