Advice Needed: AMD or Intel?

[ExtremeIC3cream]

Hi guys, I'm going to be getting a computer for Christmas so I thought I should start looking for parts now but I won't be buying them till December. The computer will be used for Gaming and also for Photoshop and Illustrator. There is two computers below I put together one Intel the other AMD.

Intel:
YOUR BASKET
1 x OcUK GeForce GTX 760 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £179.99
1 x Intel Core i5-4430 3.00GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £139.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-D3H Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £119.99
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 750W Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020061-UK) £79.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £71.99
1 x Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9) £65.99
1 x BitFenix Shadow Tower Case - Midnight Black £54.98
1 x Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache WD10EZEX - OEM ** Single Platter ** HDD £54.95
1 x TP-Link 300Mbps Wireless N PCI Express Adapter (TL-WN881ND) £16.99
1 x OcUK 20x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £12.95
Total : £809.81 (includes shipping : £10.00).



AMD:
YOUR BASKET
1 x Sapphire Radeon R9 270X Boost OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Card £149.99
1 x AMD Piledriver FX-6 Six Core 6300 Black Edition 3.50GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail £89.99
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 750W Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020061-UK) £79.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £71.99
1 x Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9) £65.99
1 x Gigabyte 970A-DS3P AMD 970A (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard £59.99
1 x BitFenix Shadow Tower Case - Midnight Black £54.98
1 x Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache WD10EZEX - OEM ** Single Platter ** HDD £54.95
1 x TP-Link 300Mbps Wireless N PCI Express Adapter (TL-WN881ND) £16.99
1 x OcUK 20x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £12.95
Total : £670.40 (includes shipping : £10.50).


I have read that the AMD FX 6300 was better for tasks such as Photoshop and Illustrator but it wouldn't perform as well in gaming as the Intel Core i5 4430. I personally thought it would be better to go four AMD as it was around £50 cheaper.

I was also hoping to either Crossfire or SLI in the future so that is why I put a 750W in there as well. Also when do you think the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti will be coming out as it will be more in my budget.

I will also add another 8GB of RAM in the future as it will help with Photoshop and Illustrator. As they are very Memory intensive.

I have a budget of around £750 but I would prefer it to be £700 to £650. I also forgot I need a Keyboard and Mouse in there but it can cheap as chips.

 

[stulid]

I quite like the AMD build but with some tweaks


YOUR BASKET
1 x HIS HD 7950 IceQ BOOST 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (H795QC3G2M) **FREE SHIPPING** £185.99
1 x AMD Piledriver FX-6 Six Core 6300 Black Edition 3.50GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail £89.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £71.99
1 x Gigabyte 970A-DS3P AMD 970A (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard £59.99
1 x Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (BLS2CP4G3D1609DS1S00CEU) £59.99
1 x Antec High Current Gamer 520W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £55.99
1 x BitFenix Shadow Tower Case - Midnight Black £54.98
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £47.99
1 x TP-Link 300Mbps Wireless N PCI Express Adapter (TL-WN881ND) £16.99
1 x OcUK 20x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £12.95
Total : £656.84 (includes shipping : FREE).



• Low profile RAM should you fit a big heatsink
• Seasonic made PSU (dropped to 520w as you shouldn't be doing crossfire on the board)
• Faster GFX card which gives free delivery to everything.

I was also hoping to either Crossfire or SLI in the future so that is why I put a 750W in there as well. Also when do you think the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti will be coming out as it will be more in my budget.

Best to get a 990 chipset board for Crossfire.

 

[ExtremeIC3cream]

If I was to Crossfire will I need a bigger power supply and will the FX 6300 bottleneck the GPUs if I were to crossfire? I also heard that seagate Hard Drives were not good or are they just rumors?

 

[Martini1991]

Crossfire 7950 would bottleneck with an FX6300, but since you can overclock it, that i5 4430 isn't going to be having a better time.

FX8320?

You'd probably want to maybe go for a 700W PSU for Crossfire, although you'll probably get away with 650.

 

[tamzzy]

YOUR BASKET
1 x HIS HD 7950 IceQ BOOST 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (H795QC3G2M) **FREE SHIPPING** £185.99
1 x AMD Piledriver FX-8 Eight Core 8320 Black Edition 3.50GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail £119.99
1 x Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 AMD 990X (Socket AM3+) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £101.99
1 x Antec High Current Gamer 750W Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (0-761345-06223-7) £89.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £71.99
1 x Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (BLS2CP4G3D1609DS1S00CEU) £59.99
1 x Zalman Z9 USB 3.0 Midi Tower Case - Black £54.98
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £47.99
1 x TP-Link 300Mbps Wireless N PCI Express Adapter (TL-WN881ND) £16.99
1 x Pioneer 24x Internal DVR-221LBK DVD Rewriter - OEM £14.99
Total : £764.88 (includes shipping : FREE).



changed the case cuz, as good looking as the bitfenix shadow may be...
with the door closed, it looks like the case may be starved of any intake air flow

 

[stulid]

If I was to Crossfire will I need a bigger power supply and will the FX 6300 bottleneck the GPUs if I were to crossfire? I also heard that seagate Hard Drives were not good or are they just rumors?

I added some bit to my post, for crossfire you want a 990 chipset so both slots run in sync.

Seagate are fine, must be rumours.

YOUR BASKET
1 x HIS HD 7950 IceQ BOOST 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (H795QC3G2M) **FREE SHIPPING** £185.99
1 x Antec High Current Gamer 750W Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (0-761345-06223-7) £89.99
1 x AMD Piledriver FX-6 Six Core 6300 Black Edition 3.50GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail £89.99
1 x Gigabyte 990XA-UD3 AMD 990X (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard £89.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £71.99
1 x Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (BLS2CP4G3D1609DS1S00CEU) £59.99
1 x BitFenix Shadow Tower Case - Midnight Black £54.98
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £47.99
1 x TP-Link 300Mbps Wireless N PCI Express Adapter (TL-WN881ND) £16.99
1 x OcUK 20x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £12.95
Total : £720.84 (includes shipping : FREE).

 

[ExtremeIC3cream]

I suppose I could put a FX 8320 in there as it's not a great deal more. Also if I were to overclock would I need a cpu cooler?

 

[stulid]

I suppose I could put a FX 8320 in there as it's not a great deal more. Also if I were to overclock would I need a cpu cooler?

Yes you should, the stock AMD coolers are also noisy even when you aren't doing much.

 

[ExtremeIC3cream]

What would a decent Cpu cooler be and how much more will it cost?

 

[stulid]

What would a decent Cpu cooler be and how much more will it cost?

YOUR BASKET
1 x Alpenföhn Matterhorn Pure Edition CPU Cooler £29.99
1 x Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler £26.99
Total : £66.88 (includes shipping : £8.25).

 

[teppic]

I just posted this AMD spec on another thread, ignoring the higher end graphics card, it's a good set up for a decent (over 4.5GHz) OC on an 8320:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Asus HD 7970 Matrix Platinum 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **FREE SHIPPING** £239.99
1 x AMD Piledriver FX-8 Eight Core 8320 Black Edition 3.50GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail £119.99
1 x Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 AMD 990X (Socket AM3+) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £101.99
1 x Patriot Viper "Sapphire Blue" 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-14900C9 1866MHz Dual Channel Kit (PV38G186C9KBL) £65.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H100 Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler *Manufacturer Refurbished Unit - 90 Day Guarantee £44.99
1 x Corsair Fan, SP120 PWM Low Noise High Pressure Fan 4 pin, Dual Pack (CO-9050012-WW) £25.99
Total : £598.93 (includes shipping : FREE).

 

[ExtremeIC3cream]

I will consider those specs teppic might be able to afford the watercooling.

 

[stulid]

I will consider those specs teppic might be able to afford the watercooling.

The H100 wont fit the case, it will go into the Ronin.

 

[ExtremeIC3cream]

YOUR BASKET
1 x HIS HD 7950 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (H795F3G2M) £161.99
1 x AMD Piledriver FX-8 Eight Core 8320 Black Edition 3.50GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail £119.99
1 x Antec High Current Gamer 750W Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (0-761345-06223-7) £89.99
1 x Gigabyte 990XA-UD3 AMD 990X (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard £89.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £71.99
1 x Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (BLS2CP4G3D1609DS1S00CEU) £59.99
1 x BitFenix Shadow Tower Case - Midnight Black £54.98
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £47.99
1 x Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler £26.99
2 x Gigabyte KM7580 Wireless 2.4GHz Keyboard & Mouse Set £19.99 (£39.98)
1 x TP-Link 300Mbps Wireless N PCI Express Adapter (TL-WN881ND) £16.99
Total : £793.46 (includes shipping : £10.50).



I took your advice a put this together, it's out of my budget a bit. I also heard about some Windows 8 trial for 3 months it would work out as my birthday is 3 months after christmas so I could maybe get it then and I could maybe hold of getting the cpu cooler till my birthday as well.

 

[stulid]

This is where you get the 90day Win8.1 trial - http://technet.microsoft.com/en-gb/evalcenter/hh699156.aspx

You have two Keyboard+mouse sets

Spec looks spot on then

 

[teppic]

The other HIS 7950 is much better, and makes the entire order free delivery.

With the Coolermaster EVO cooler you could manage 4.4-4.5GHz on the CPU, though a slightly larger one will mean it's more likely to get to about 4.6GHz. I would also get the Asus 990 EVO board, as others in this price range aren't likely to get more than about 4.3GHz overclocks.

 

[ExtremeIC3cream]

Didn't see I have two keyboard and mouse sets I'll take them out later I'm on my phone at the moment also I'll get the over Graphics card since it has free delivery and also how long would this build last for and what will it be like playing games such as Battlefield 4?

 

[teppic]

Here are the changes I'd make:

YOUR BASKET
1 x HIS HD 7950 IceQ BOOST 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (H795QC3G2M) **FREE SHIPPING** £185.99
1 x AMD Piledriver FX-8 Eight Core 8320 Black Edition 3.50GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail £119.99
1 x Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 AMD 990X (Socket AM3+) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £101.99
1 x Patriot Viper "Sapphire Blue" 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-14900C9 1866MHz Dual Channel Kit (PV38G186C9KBL) £65.99
1 x Alpenföhn Brocken CPU Cooler £32.99
Total : £506.94 (includes shipping : FREE).



Someone recently posted results with this cooler of 4.8GHz stable, which is brilliant for the money.

 

[stulid]

Didn't see I have two keyboard and mouse sets I'll take them out later I'm on my phone at the moment also I'll get the over Graphics card since it has free delivery and also how long would this build last for and what will it be like playing games such as Battlefield 4?

It will last very well, it seems the AMD CPU's compete just as well in BF4 as Intel CPU's.

http://gamegpu.ru/action-/-fps-/-tps/battlefield-4-test-gpu.html

Stick to 1080 resolution and you will be fine

 

[ExtremeIC3cream]

Also what SSD would you recommend as I will be getting one in future along with more RAM and another Graphics Card