Advice needed quickly speeding issue
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yes, yes it is unless you are driving dangerously. I suppose you also have to take into account that a "real" 99mph could easily be showing over 110mph on the speedo so I accept at that speed the feds might want to talk to you about dangerous driving/without due care and attention etc but the crime itself is still an sp30.
In fact on the m40/m4 at least (as I can only speak for thames valley on this) unless you're over a ton or driving dangerously its not even worth their time to stop you because there are so few traffic cars per square mile that they could be missing an accident/stolen car etc etc.
I have a couple of friends in my office who have been clocked into the 90s and been given 3 points.
In my experience and from what I am told 30mph is about the limit but over that you can actually expect a ban rather than 6 points.
My father in law and a couple of friends have walked out of court with short bans and large fines for 65 in a 30 (very silly, no defense for my mate) and 104mph on the m3 (at 4am.. still contest that my father in law was about to hurt precisely no one doing that).
In fact on the m40/m4 at least (as I can only speak for thames valley on this) unless you're over a ton or driving dangerously its not even worth their time to stop you because there are so few traffic cars per square mile that they could be missing an accident/stolen car etc etc.
I have a couple of friends in my office who have been clocked into the 90s and been given 3 points.
In my experience and from what I am told 30mph is about the limit but over that you can actually expect a ban rather than 6 points.
My father in law and a couple of friends have walked out of court with short bans and large fines for 65 in a 30 (very silly, no defense for my mate) and 104mph on the m3 (at 4am.. still contest that my father in law was about to hurt precisely no one doing that).
Just so that I wouldn't get a driving ban.
No it's not.matt100 said:
So according to you, very few people should get anything between 3 points and a ban? This just isn't the case.
http://www.ukmotorists.com/speeding fines.asp
Of the 21 people listed on that site who were done for speeding between 20 and 29mph above the limit, why have 16 of them been given more than 3 points or banned, whilst only 5 have received 3 points or less? That's 76% receiving points which you claim aren't possible.
Vertigo1 said:
sorry but a "come grind your axe here" site where you input the details yourself is hardly proof of anything, I'll go by my own experience of myself, my friends and my colleagues getting caught and the word of my PC friend rather than some honey pot for people who probably think they've been hard done by.
I bet you half of them had an element of dangerous driving with them at least.
I stand by what I said, we'll see when the OP gets his letter, iirc they have 14 days to PRODUCE the ticket (not neccessarily for you to receive it although its normally well within that time) so we should be hearing shortly.
Frankly I couldn't care less how many examples you have of people getting 3 points, nor will the result of the OP's transgression prove anything.
I'm taking issue with this quote of yours:
I'm taking issue with this quote of yours:
I still maintain that this is total rubbish and a large number of people close to 30mph over the limit get more than 3 points, thus disproving your claim.
I know a guy who was caught doing under 90 in a 60mph NSL zone.
He was going to receive 6 points which would have = 12 on his licence and he would have been banned for 12 months. However, after pleading that he needed his car for his job, he walked away with 5 points + £750 fine.
This was a 50 year old ex one seater racing driver by the way. On an empty wide country lane. He was pulled over by an unmarked Honda Accord.
You can never put any tolerances on prosectutions for speeding offences. a lot of it depends on police force/traffic officers discretion/road conditions. I've been past mobile vans @ ~80mph GPS and not had an SP30 pop through my letter box. However, it's a known fact that people have been prosecuted for 32 in a 30mph for instance.
At the end of the day, there's a line between speeding and careless driving. As for 30mph limit, are you insane? 70mph in a 40 would certainly be careless driving, and even wreckless on some roads. How about 30mph zones? How about 59mph outside a school @ 8:30am.
The OP has no idea if he was even doing under 70mph. It's obvious he was giving it some noise in his new motor. I don't judge you at all, I'm sure your driving was perfectly safe, but hey, blame the money grabbing gits who run this country. Although you can't really complain or feel hard done by, you knew the law and you broke it, take it on the chin.
PS. Please note I may regulary drive like a complete nobber.
He was going to receive 6 points which would have = 12 on his licence and he would have been banned for 12 months. However, after pleading that he needed his car for his job, he walked away with 5 points + £750 fine.
This was a 50 year old ex one seater racing driver by the way. On an empty wide country lane. He was pulled over by an unmarked Honda Accord.
You can never put any tolerances on prosectutions for speeding offences. a lot of it depends on police force/traffic officers discretion/road conditions. I've been past mobile vans @ ~80mph GPS and not had an SP30 pop through my letter box. However, it's a known fact that people have been prosecuted for 32 in a 30mph for instance.
At the end of the day, there's a line between speeding and careless driving. As for 30mph limit, are you insane? 70mph in a 40 would certainly be careless driving, and even wreckless on some roads. How about 30mph zones? How about 59mph outside a school @ 8:30am.
The OP has no idea if he was even doing under 70mph. It's obvious he was giving it some noise in his new motor. I don't judge you at all, I'm sure your driving was perfectly safe, but hey, blame the money grabbing gits who run this country. Although you can't really complain or feel hard done by, you knew the law and you broke it, take it on the chin.
PS. Please note I may regulary drive like a complete nobber.
I am hoping i was doing under 70,, i really am. My passenger thought that i was doing around 60 although neather was used to the car. It was a lovely sunny day no traffic and on a dual carriage way which used to be a 60 but now 40 no houses present. I never speed in built up areas, could not live with being a child killer !!!
I was driving on the M40 today. The average speed on there seems to be about 100 anyway! In fact, driving down the A41, as the road dips down a fair bit I got up to about 120/130. I saw police car coming up behind me at some knots with the lights going, so just let off the throttle, feeling a bit sick inside as to what punishmet would befall me. By the time he went past I'd only slowed to around 100 - he obviously had bigger fish to fry!matt100 said:
Vertigo1 said:
I'm certainly not going to get into an argument about it, think what you like about what I said. I am willing to conceed that it might not be a strict 30mph but it certainly seems to hold true at 40/50 etc limits. I expect at 30mph its different (which it bloody well ought to be).
90+ on the motorway I still say 99% of coppers won't even bat an eyelid, god knows I've gone hurtling past enough of them at that speed.
