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My cousin wants to build a gaming pc (wants to use Skyrim mods) and has budget of £1k maybe £1200. This is what he's put together:

- CPU: Intel Core i5 12400 = £182

- CPU Cooler: CM Hyper 212 GB Black Edition = £48

- MOBO: Gigabyte B660 DS3H AX DDR4 = £150

- RAM: XPG Spectrix 16GB D45G = £90

- SSD: Crucial P2 CT1000P2SSD8 1 TB Internal SSD = £73

- GPU?

- Case: NZXT H510 Flow Base = £60

- PSU : Corsair RM650 = £80

Don't suppose their is an amd equivalent?
 
I have not looked at Skyrim benchmarks in quite a while but I do remember you need a lot of vram once you start using a lot of mods. You need to think about a gpu with a decent amount of vram and 8gb will not be enough iirc.

Here are a couple of options.

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £900.48 (includes delivery: £10.50)​






Normally 12gb on a 3060 is a waste but for modded Skyrim it is much better than the 6gb version. The RX 6750 also has 12gb of vram and is significantly faster than the 3060 but Nv seems to have less issues with some widely used mods.

If he has the budget then a 12gb 3080 is the best option

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,770.48 (includes delivery: £10.50)​





New gpus due out towards the end of the year so not a perfect time to be upgrading but there is never really a perfect time.
 
I have not looked at Skyrim benchmarks in quite a while but I do remember you need a lot of vram once you start using a lot of mods. You need to think about a gpu with a decent amount of vram and 8gb will not be enough iirc.

Unless there's some mods I don't know about, I don't think it would make much use of a 6 core CPU either (e.g. it runs fine on dual core pentiums without HT), so probably similar performance with an i3-12100, but I wouldn't object to someone buying a 12400.
 
My cousin wants to build a gaming pc (wants to use Skyrim mods) and has budget of £1k maybe £1200. This is what he's put together:

- CPU: Intel Core i5 12400 = £182

- CPU Cooler: CM Hyper 212 GB Black Edition = £48

- MOBO: Gigabyte B660 DS3H AX DDR4 = £150

- RAM: XPG Spectrix 16GB D45G = £90

- SSD: Crucial P2 CT1000P2SSD8 1 TB Internal SSD = £73

- GPU?

- Case: NZXT H510 Flow Base = £60

- PSU : Corsair RM650 = £80

Don't suppose their is an amd equivalent?
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CPU- Has integrated graphics which is nice if you don't have your gpu working, as at least you have a pc/helps in troubleshooting. AS you'll have a gpu, could save £18 or so going for the 12400F, but great choice
CPU Cooler- same cooler is £38 on OCuk, will list below with some alternatives
Mobo- Hardware unboxed did roundup of budget boards...vrm thermals on the gigabyte board are poor and better alternatives. if you're going to us it would need air blown on the vrms to keep it cool. for that price(which is expensive) would pay the £10 extra and get the MSI B660M mortar which is a premium board on offer at mo. Best budget board is the MSI Pro B660M-A wifi which is £150 here(hence would get the mortar for price diff). If you want atx the Tuf is an alternative also
Ram- 16gb for £90? seems very expensive..D45 is non rgb so put some below..for £95 you can get 32gb
SSD the P2 is an entry level gen3 nvme. For the same price you can get the 1tb WD SN570, or for £95 if you look, can get the Crucial P5P(make sure the P5P not just P5), which is a good gen4 nvme
Case-More personal choice. ok case but limited it you upgrade later and want to put in a more powerful cpu with an aio as only place would be front as can inly take a 120mm fan in top I think. Gamernexus good place to start..Alternatives 4000d airflow(seen for £81) lancool II cases but others around
PSU. For the price if you search you can get the 2021 RM850 for £89, which would prob do your cousins next gpu upgrade. If you want to get the 650W then there's a bundle with a lancool II case

Regarding gpu. Getting a nvidia reference card cheapest route into current gen cards. the 3060tiFE has just sold out again at £369, but the 3070fe is £469 and still in stock so is the card I'd go for now if buying today..(at that price getting a 3060ti aib card from a shop will be similar price to the 3070fe). AMD route for 1080p gaming a RX6650XT card or 1440p a 6700xt/6750xt card

GPU's going to be refreshed in a few months, though believe they'll start with the higher end cards and lower end in the range will be a few months after that, just to be aware



As Tetras said above, the 5600 cpu is amd equivalent for £175. the more powerful 5600X, which has been around longer can be had for £180 also if you look..for the £5 extra I'd get that but here it's £25 more I think so would stick with the 5600
Prices on boards yo yo a little. The MSI B550 Gaming edge is a decent board for which I've seen for £131, though generally around the £150 area(£180 on OCUK). put the tuf gaming below as another. Could use same coolers etc from above, just make sure you get amd variant for am4 fittings.
I'm only listing boards with wifi by the way as you had it on the gigabyte board.

No roight or wrong really going intel/amd for gaming...most games at 1440p and 4k are gpu bound anyway, and as getting fresh build, aim for 1440p gaming
My basket at OcUK:

Total: £716.83 (includes delivery: £0.00)​


My basket at OcUK:

Total: £524.93 (includes delivery: £0.00)​


Below amd cards and the lancool case/rm650 combo offer here
My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,006.74 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

 
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Wow thanks for the info @Craig_d1

I can probably source an Asus 3070 for £450, will that be good for mods?

I like the Lancool II case but seems like need to buy separate attachment for £13.

Is 650w good for enough with 3070? Is it better to just go with that 12400 instead of 5600? He'll be doing gaming and some graphics work I think.
 
Wow thanks for the info @Craig_d1

I can probably source an Asus 3070 for £450, will that be good for mods?

I like the Lancool II case but seems like need to buy separate attachment for £13.

Is 650w good for enough with 3070? Is it better to just go with that 12400 instead of 5600? He'll be doing gaming and some graphics work I think.
My system is B550/5800X but just think I's go intel 12400 or maybe 12600. if look to drop a 13600k or 13700k in a couple of years def 12400. AMD route being replaced with new AM5 platform later in year, but either will perform the same to some degree, give or take
you can get away with a 650w psu for the 3070, below had 208w as peak power draw for a 3070. if you look a 3080 was 338w,3090 364W..next gen are meant to draw up to 600w for top cards. A decent psu will come with a 10yrs warranty so should last another gpu upgrade, so if you go for 650w psu, will limit further upgrades, so have to consider if you intend to upgrade in a few years and how you're going to do it...if it's drop a new gpu in, may be worth getting an RM850(as said, £89 seen it for on sale) which should be good enough up to 3090 level in future...if down the line your cousin thinks it better to sell pc as a bundle and start again, then 650w is fine for now
 
I can probably source an Asus 3070 for £450, will that be good for mods?


It is a really good card and a good price but it only has 8gb vram. Like I have said above there are situations where using a large combination of certain mods in Skyrim will push the user over the 8gb limit and this will lead to low fps.

I have not really played Skyrim in over 5 years but when I was initially playing with mods I had over 120 mods active at one time, learning about virtual databases almost melted my brain but I got it working in the end. The gameplay mods are not a problem and do not cause any performance issues but once you start adding 4k textures and lighting mods you fill up the framebuffer very fast and I had situations where I used over the 8gb vram on my 1080, this led to very poor performance.

I would say get that card or a 3060ti FE when they are available. To get a better card for Skyrim and mods you have to go for a 3080 and they are £850+ so the 3070 does give much better value.
 
After a hiatus, he is looking to proceed, convinced him to go for 5600 instead of 12400 but don't think he'll wanna do mods. 5600 still the way to go?

This a good PSU? Cooler Master MWE 850 Gold V2
 
After a hiatus, he is looking to proceed, convinced him to go for 5600 instead of 12400 but don't think he'll wanna do mods. 5600 still the way to go?

This a good PSU? Cooler Master MWE 850 Gold V2

Depends on the price, @ £130 odd the 5600 non-X is usually the best value, if there are decently priced boards available.

How much is it? What other options do you have? The Thermaltake GF1 has been on offer lately and that has a 10 year warranty, decent build quality and reviewed well. The Phanteks AMP 850 is £130 @ OCUK (Seasonic built, 10 year warranty).
 
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Depends on the price, @ £130 odd the 5600 non-X is usually the best value, if there are decently priced boards available.

How much is it? What other options do you have? The Thermaltake GF1 has been on offer lately and that has a 10 year warranty, decent build quality and reviewed well. The Phanteks AMP 850 is £130 @ OCUK (Seasonic built, 10 year warranty).
Looks like boards should be cheaper than what will go with 12400.

£95 but out of stock. What about Corsair CX750F RGB, 80 PLUS Bronze Fully Modular ATX RGB for £99?
 
£95 but out of stock. What about Corsair CX750F RGB, 80 PLUS Bronze Fully Modular ATX RGB for £99?

Unless the model has been updated since the THG/TPU reviews, then from what I can see: it is only bronze rated, half the warranty (5 year) and lesser build quality compared to PSUs like the Phanteks AMP, Corsair RMx and EVGA G6.
 
Unless the model has been updated since the THG/TPU reviews, then from what I can see: it is only bronze rated, half the warranty (5 year) and lesser build quality compared to PSUs like the Phanteks AMP, Corsair RMx and EVGA G6.
Reviews that bad? Would you say minimum silver?
 
Reviews that bad? Would you say minimum silver?

Me? I don't care about the efficiency rating, I just want the highest quality innards and a decent warranty. From the reviews, the CX750F is not awful by any means, but it is overpriced when you can get higher tier models, which have superior build quality, warranty and performance, for a few extra ££.
 
My cousin wants to build a gaming pc (wants to use Skyrim mods) and has budget of £1k maybe £1200. This is what he's put together:

- CPU: Intel Core i5 12400 = £182

- CPU Cooler: CM Hyper 212 GB Black Edition = £48

- MOBO: Gigabyte B660 DS3H AX DDR4 = £150

- RAM: XPG Spectrix 16GB D45G = £90

- SSD: Crucial P2 CT1000P2SSD8 1 TB Internal SSD = £73

- GPU?

- Case: NZXT H510 Flow Base = £60

- PSU : Corsair RM650 = £80

Don't suppose their is an amd equivalent?
For the GPU, you can get an AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB for around £200-£220. For an AMD equivalent to the Intel Core i5 12400, you can get a Ryzen 5 3600 for around £180.
 
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