Advice on Gaming PC build for streaming

Sparx said:
I can't even be bothered to reply to 4K's absolute rubbish, everything he says makes no sense and has zero logic - not sure if it's a mental health issue potentially, either way - I'm out.

I'll only be posting here again to help the OP if he needs it. :)
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Zero logic - I'm stating facts:


https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/983299-how-many-cores-do-you-need-for-streaming/

I don't know why you put the cheapest motherboard in so expensive configurations.
Your motherboard is the foundation - you need to invest more in it - but not in second-tier chipsets.
 
Brilliant @4K8KW10 - I can't let you keep posting rubbish. If anyone comes across this thread, you might make them as deluded as you are...

The mobo I suggested has the same VRMs as the B450 Tomahawk Max. You wouldn't know that because you don't research properly any parts, you just think bigger price tag and higher model numbers = better in your simple mind. It also has WiFi built in rather than buying a separate adapter. Let's not forget the fact it's also £50 cheaper. What can your budget X570 board do the B550 can't?

So you're referring to old and outdated information? NVENC has since become a much improved thing and become very popular for streaming, it can offload and work a lot better than X264 for encoding. Putting much less load on the CPU that it doesn't really matter about having zillions of cores/threads. Yes you could get a 3900X and then use X264 to encode, but then you'll get less FPS because you have a worse GPU... Impacting the gaming experience.

@jigger OP is brand new to PC gaming, so much he doesn't want to build the PC. He isn't going to be doing BIOS mods or overclocking really is he? It's also still a less powerful GPU in the same overall system cost, than what a 2070S will give him... I presume you're also overlooking the SSD with half storage (which COD will already half fill), inferior GPU and budget X570 that brings no benefits to the system he suggested? Lol
 
4K - It's a bespoke spec that's going to be built by OcUK - the odds are that it won't receive any love until the GPU starts to show its age - and that won't be for a good few years if he sticks with his present monitor or upgrades the panel.

Either way - a budget 550 with quality VRMs, that 'still' gives an upgrade path, and enables quality core components that he can utilise now would seem to fulfil his opening brief.

EDIT: @Sparx - you may want to take 5 minutes to take a breathe. :)
 
Sparx said:
Brilliant @4K8KW10 - I can't let you keep posting rubbish. If anyone comes across this thread, you might make them as deluded as you are...

The mobo I suggested has the same VRMs as the B450 Tomahawk Max. You wouldn't know that because you don't research properly any parts, you just think bigger price tag and higher model numbers = better in your simple mind. It also has WiFi built in rather than buying a separate adapter. Let's not forget the fact it's also £60 cheaper. What can your budget X570 board do the B550 can't?

So you're referring to old and outdated information? NVENC has since become a much improved thing and become very popular for streaming, it can offload and work a lot better than X264 for encoding. Putting much less load on the CPU that it doesn't really matter about having zillions of cores/threads. Yes you could get a 3900X and then use X264 to encode, but then you'll get less FPS because you have a worse GPU... Impacting the gaming experience.

@jigger OP is brand new to PC gaming, so much he doesn't want to build the PC. He isn't going to be modding or overclocking really is he? It's also still a less powerful GPU in the same overall system cost, than what a 2070S will give him... I presume you're also overlooking the SSD with half storage, inferior GPU and budget X570 that brings no benefits to the system? lol
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It brings a better motherboard and faster CPU. As I said it makes some sense, but I wouldn’t recommend your build either.
 
jigger said:
I’m not sure TBH, apart from the awful case and PSU, 4K8K build makes some sense. If you mod the 5600XT you get a 5700 for £250 and opens up a meaningful upgrade on the CPU.
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Considering the OP is new to gaming PCs then modding a Gpu is probably not the best idea. Also the X570 A pro isn't a good choice for a 3900X since its has a B450 standard of VRM with an inferior heatsync to a B450.
 
Joxeon said:
Considering the OP is new to gaming PCs then modding a Gpu is probably not the best idea. Also the X570 A pro isn't a good choice for a 3900X since its has a B450 standard of VRM with an inferior heatsync to a B450.
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3900X is 100 watt chip, the VRM might be better but it will make no difference.

If the OP could configure or not? He can use a forum so I’d say the chances are good.
 
@4K8KW10

yeah new graphic cards are just round the corner the 3090 which probably going to cost the £1200-1400 budget he has for the full system. I don’t think they are releasing the full range just round the corner are they?
 
rchads89 said:
@4K8KW10

yeah new graphic cards are just round the corner the 3090 which probably going to cost the £1200-1400 budget he has for the full system. I don’t think they are releasing the full range just round the corner are they?
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I’d assume Nvidia will release a 3050-60/2150-60 that will knock the 2070/5700 into next week for less money. And then AMD will announce something even better a month later.
 
jigger said:
I’d assume Nvidia will release a 3050-60/2150-60 that will knock the 2070/5700 into next week for less money. And then AMD will announce something even better a month later.
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Not until Xmas if you're lucky, more than likely going into 2021 - which was his point.
 
jigger said:
Nvidia has a big count down on its site... New cards are imminent.
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In the history of GPU launches, both Nvidia and AMD have never launched all of their next-gen line-up at the same time lol.

They always launch the top-end models first, then over the future months trickle out the mid-end models, then the budget ones etc.
 
Sparx said:
In the history of GPU launches, both Nvidia and AMD have never launched all of their next-gen line-up at the same time lol.

They always launch the top-end models first, then over the future months trickle out the mid-end models, then the budget ones etc.
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I thought this was common knowledge tbh
 
Sparx said:
In the history of GPU launches, both Nvidia and AMD have never launched all of their next-gen line-up at the same time lol.

They always launch the top-end models first, then over the future months trickle out the mid-end models, then the budget ones etc.
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What are you on about?
 
jigger said:
What are you on about?
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The OP has a budget of £1400.

While it's all well and good suggesting the OP wait to see what the new cards have to offer, chances are Nvidia is only going to release the top end and we wont see their budget or mid range offerings until late this year or early next.

Meaning that the 'new cards' are probably going to be a 3080 and 3080TI to start and they'll be £800-1200 a pop by themselves most likely.

While this might not be the case, historically speaking it's how we've seen new card series' launches go down.
 
Gray2233 said:
The OP has a budget of £1400.

While it's all well and good suggesting the OP wait to see what the new cards have to offer, chances are Nvidia is only going to release the top end and we wont see their budget or mid range offerings until late this year or early next.

Meaning that the 'new cards' are probably going to be a 3080 and 3080TI to start and they'll be £800-1200 a pop by themselves most likely.

While this might not be the case, historically speaking it's how we've seen new card series' launches go down.
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Nvidia and AMD are well off the usual cadence.
 
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