Advice required

SexyBetty · 8 Jun 2006 at 17:28

Buttkicker said:
Thanks for the quick responses... but please leave out the 'why has your daughter got a £180 phone'

We weren't trying to ram it down your throat, it was some helpful advice. Just seemed an excessive amount of money for a phone, let alone one for a child. Guess you've found out the hard way

iCraig · 8 Jun 2006 at 17:30

At the end of the day, her schools rules were not to bring mobiles phones into class. But she did, maybe she'll learn her lesson now.

BrenOS · 8 Jun 2006 at 17:30

Nope, entirely your fault. It's against school regs for her to have a mobile phone on her, and it's been stolen. Face the consequences of your actions. Tough ****.

Stringy · 8 Jun 2006 at 17:30

What you might find is that they have some form of legal protection meaning that they're not liable for what happens to confiscated items, due to the fact that they were confiscated as they contravened school rules. Especially seeing as someone could take in an item worth thousands, get it confiscated, and then it's subsequently stolen - and then the school has to cough up money it doesn't have.

reflex · 8 Jun 2006 at 17:32

I would be mad aswell, but dont take the 'typical angry parent' route and march round the school like iv seen many times.

gc123 · 8 Jun 2006 at 17:40

well my lad had his phone confiscated, at school (a while back) and there policy was to lock it up in the school safe for a week. didnt matter how much bellyaching we did they would not back down. but they did state whilst in there possesion it was on there insurance. so you might have a chance. (surely they know which kids were in the class? can they not ask them, somebody must have seen it go walkies.)

MNuTz · 8 Jun 2006 at 17:42

demand that the entire class gets locked in a classroom every break and dinner until the phone turns up, or until the theif turns him/herself in!

Dave M · 8 Jun 2006 at 17:46

start a small claims action if they don't pay up, you don't lose much if you lose.

Amp34 · 8 Jun 2006 at 18:03

Slightly OT but i just had a great idea.

Next time a teacher cofiscates an item from your child, keep the kid at home. When social services come round cofiscate the social worker stating no social workers in the house, or perhaps their mobile (producing a pre printed form stating it)

On topic the newspaper idea is a good one if the school dont cooperate. Nothing makes people back better than some bad press. I would be suprised if they didnt have some kind of insurance though although it depends whether the insurance would only cover the phone if it was locked up.

BrenOS · 8 Jun 2006 at 18:05

WTF?

What is the world coming too? Small claims court? Local paper?

Piggymon · 8 Jun 2006 at 18:09

BrenOS said:
WTF?

What is the world coming too? Small claims court? Local paper?

Was just thinking the same :/

I'm very much of the opinion that there is a REASON why mobile phones are banned at schools and I guess you've just discovered one of them

Get over it and buy a new phone .. preferably a cheap one this time and ensure your little darling obeys the school rules

Dave M · 8 Jun 2006 at 18:16

They took it and lost it - it's arrogance in the extreme to presume they are not responsible.

I really can't believe the people in this thread saying it's the kids / parents fault - it's not. If the school cannot take responsibility for their lack of care over the phone then the court will have to step in and make the decision for them.

chippie · 8 Jun 2006 at 18:19

Telescopi said:
They took it and lost it - it's arrogance in the extreme to presume they are not responsible.

I really can't believe the people in this thread saying it's the kids / parents fault - it's not. If the school cannot take responsibility for their lack of care over the phone then the court will have to step in and make the decision for them.

Yes, the school did have a 'lack of care' as you put it when they manage to lose something they confiscated.

But you ignore the original lack of care by the child (and arguably by the parent in the first instance) of taking a phone into a place where the phone is not allowed.

Suggesting court action and going to the newspapers is a massive over-reaction, especially considering we don't yet know the schools response to this.

Dave M · 8 Jun 2006 at 18:22

chippie said:
Yes, the school did have a 'lack of care' as you put it when they manage to lose something they confiscated.

But you ignore the original lack of care by the child (and arguably by the parent in the first instance) of taking a phone into a place where the phone is not allowed.

Suggesting court action and going to the newspapers is a massive over-reaction, especially considering we don't yet know the schools response to this.

We've heard the teachers response to this - deny all responsibility.

I shouldn't be surprised though, not many teachers have any moral backbone these days.

Raikiri · 8 Jun 2006 at 18:24

BrenOS said:
Nope, entirely your fault. It's against school regs for her to have a mobile phone on her, and it's been stolen. Face the consequences of your actions. Tough ****.

But, at the time it was stolen she didnt have it with her. It is clearly the teachers fault for letting it be stolen, had they just let her keep it (it was off after all) it wouldnt of happened.

chippie · 8 Jun 2006 at 18:29

Telescopi said:
We've heard the teachers response to this - deny all responsibility.

I shouldn't be surprised though, not many teachers have any moral backbone these days.

Yes, the teacher may deny all responsibility, but we don't know what the school (who have overall responsibility) have to say.

You will probably find that most people in most situations will refuse to admit liability to anything that may involve insurance and leave it to their superiors and/or insurance people to sort out. I don't think it displays a lack of 'moral backbone'.