Advice Wife being kicked out of uni

MrMoonX said:
Try reading the case rather than the sun headlines

If you look at how the paediatrician screwed up........
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For those of us who have read the inquiry papers; all professions were equally blamed for not following their own procedures whether it be the police, social workers, health care etc

All the signs were there but individually these organisations did not deliver.
 
No offence coke is bad but what your wife did shows she is not a very nice person, Nor can she be trusted. Heck i would think twice about even having her as a wife if this is how she acts.
 
smoove said:
Do you honestly think that people in those professions don't take drugs?? :confused::rolleyes:;)
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Is that what I said?

GD comprehension never fails to disappoint.

For the record, yes I believe drug use is far far lower amongst those professions. What do you think happens when it is discovered they take coke recreationally?
 
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The Geezer said:
For those of us who have read the inquiry papers; all professions were equally blamed for not following their own procedures whether it be the police, social workers, health care etc

All the signs were there but individually these organisations did not deliver.
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Except the overall person in charge of the trust responsible handed in her professional qualification so as to not be disciplined and is now heading up a very well known charity. Meanwhile the medical and nursing staff who voiced their concerns and did blow the whistle were left hanging in the wind ...

Rofflay said:
No offence coke is bad but what your wife did shows she is not a very nice person, Nor can she be trusted. Heck i would think twice about even having her as a wife if this is how she acts.
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These kind of comment demonstrate a complete lack of understanding about the difference of someone holding a job and someone holding a job that is bound by professional standards. Doesn't shock me from you to be honest.

aardvark said:
not really - the law takes president no matter what the uni 'rules' are.
just because you sign something doesn't make it legal.
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If you read the actual law behind these things and the case histories they quite clearly always find that the professional bodies statutes stand as they were legally formed and the practitioners wilfully became beholden to them.
 
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Whatever the facts, I hope your wife is ok, retains her place at University and does very well.

It would be criminal for anyone to lose what could be a productive career helping those who need it simply becasue they made a mistake in procedures whilst training.
 
MrMoonX said:
Try reading the case rather than the sun headlines

If you look at how the paediatrician screwed up........
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The social workers were sacked and lost their appeal, but still didn't get struck off. The usual pass the parcel of blame and jostle to see who can escape with their job. The same is happening in Rotherham.
 
Above&Beyond said:
The social workers were sacked and lost their appeal, but still didn't get struck off. The usual pass the parcel of blame and jostle to see who can escape with their job. The same is happening in Rotherham.
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This isn't the baby p bash social work thread, but you missed out the police and health professionals all failed too. Not to mention the system, the only person to blame is the killer. Every child social worker is close to the next baby p due to the system failing, high case loads and budget cuts
 
Those saying the woman was wrong to report her colleague/friend are the one's who are wrong.

You have to hold ethical standards above any relationship you may have in certain work areas where others may be at risk from the behavior of people you work with.
 
Hindsight is such a wonderful thing. It is good to know we have some many talented people on these forums that never make any mistakes at work ...
 
Xordium said:
Hindsight is such a wonderful thing. It is good to know we have some many talented people on these forums that never make any mistakes at work ...
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I've sat in loads of Child Protection lectures, lessons etc and the main point that comes over is there isn't enough time to spend on cases. I think it was Horizon that reported that the average time spent on a case was 18 minutes (!) so you have to wonder if Social Workers weren't rigorously tested there would be many more mistakes.
 
Dimple said:
I've sat in loads of Child Protection lectures, lessons etc and the main point that comes over is there isn't enough time to spend on cases. I think it was Horizon that reported that the average time spent on a case was 18 minutes (!) so you have to wonder if Social Workers weren't rigorously tested there would be many more mistakes.
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Probably why it takes so long to get children out of dangerous environments and situations, speaking from personal experience.
 
Xordium said:
Hindsight is such a wonderful thing. It is good to know we have some many talented people on these forums that never make any mistakes at work ...
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These people sacked for gross misconduct or others being incompetent led to kids being killed or others raped and abused. Their 'mistake' wasn't jamming the paper tray at work. An 'oops my bad!' doesnt really cut it.
 
Above&Beyond said:
These people sacked for gross misconduct or others being incompetent led to kids being killed or others raped and abused. Their 'mistake' wasn't jamming the paper tray at work. An 'oops my bad!' doesnt really cut it.
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A nice appeal to emotion. Fortunately during such investigations - well bar the politicians - people tend to look at chains of events rather than scapegoating individuals for things that may well have been out of their control at that specific time.

As with Baby P it is very easy to actually lay the blame on the individuals easily identifiable as being at the frontline of access. However, the burden of accountability measures far further than that. For example, with the failure of services at Whittington and the subsequent takeover of paediatric services by Gt Ormond St. The concerns raised towards the CEO Dr (well she was at the time) Jane Collins and her overall governance of the services. Through to the head of social services for the region. Questions were asked about medical supervision in paediatrics and the actual practice of the individuals involved. Questions were rightly asked about the protocols and procedures and whether these were actually achievable.

These were not specific individual errors this was a total system failure directly caused by a lack of resource allocation, a dearth of talent and a culture of having to accept second best and make do.

Alternatively you could go with the Daily Mail appeal to emotion line ...

But people did lose their jobs. Plenty of people had their careers ended because of that incident. The people who did though were frontline staff who had little recourse but to muddle through the best they could. The actual people who had overall responsibility for the mess seem to have not come out too bad at the end of the day. So rather than have a rant about social workers why don't you email Marie Curie and ask why they are paying such a big wage to someone with such a **** record?
 
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