Aftermoon - New Game from WarZ Developers

The zombies in DayZ literally remind me of chickens when they attack, go watch a cockfight, that to me seems to be what they used as the animations for DayZ. :(

DayZ, the free popular player made modification that was just a few megabytes in size for the popular Milsim game Arma2 did infact originally use the animal AI on human models + an aggressive behavior to basically make them zombies.

In my mind the primary big glaring problems from dayZ. are that it inst an MMO. ArmA2 was not designed to be a persistent MMO. It inst a zombie game. Its a player made mod for something totally different.

But despite the fact the game was made with not the slightest intention to be a persistent zombie survival MMO. its Done very well for itself. And here is to hoping BI do a great job with standalone DayZ where its made from the ground up to support these features.

BI are a great company. They are PC exclusive. Their games use the latest tech (when made) they offer the types of things consoles never will and other PC games STILL dont despite it being so old. They charge fairly, they have good contact with their player base. They are 100% mod friendly. AND their DLC doesnt segregate the community! Very good way of doing things. at a fair price again too.

This is the kind of developer we should be putting our support behind! Not the cowboys who are making WarZ.

So uhhh... bit of a tangent there.


P.S. I hate DayZ! I'm a long time ArmA fan. DayZ has brought in a terrible community to the arma world.
 
Last edited:
I just feel like paying a developer to cut every corner imaginable to get an unfinished incredibly buggy product to market sets a bad precedent and encourages other developers to make horrible decisions. Watching any video on youtube featuring this game just shows the extraordinary lengths they have gone too to just get something out there to cash in on the massive amount of demand for a Zombie survival game of this nature.

Both DayZ and WarZ are actually pretty bad games but there's a huge gap in the market for an MMO Zombie survival game and these are the only games out that fill the void no matter how bad they are. Atleast DayZ is just a free mod so lots of its shortcomings can be looked over.

I just hope a more refined polished and evolved game comes to market that really puts WarZ to shame comes out sometime soon, perhaps the DayZ standalone will be the proper evolution with full development put into the game I think it could be huge.
 

Indeed, ArmA itself is a good game for what it does, and somebody who is interested in that kind of game is going to love it. The fact DayZ required it however seems like more of a money maker for BiS than anything.

I just feel like paying a developer to cut every corner imaginable to get an unfinished incredibly buggy product to market sets a bad precedent and encourages other developers to make horrible decisions. Watching any video on youtube featuring this game just shows the extraordinary lengths they have gone too to just get something out there to cash in on the massive amount of demand for a Zombie survival game of this nature.

I agree with this, not only is it a terrible practice but an incredibly stupid action on their part, WarZ does have the potential to go far and make them tens, maybe hundreds of millions revenue, but they just aren't settling down and working on it, they are doing what they've done and want to make War Inc 2 and this Aftermoon game, despite being a small studio. That means that WarZ is either going to be canned, or develop at a snails pace from this point on.

Both DayZ and WarZ are actually pretty bad games but there's a huge gap in the market for an MMO Zombie survival game and these are the only games out that fill the void no matter how bad they are. Atleast DayZ is just a free mod so lots of its shortcomings can be looked over.

No it isn't, about 5% of the DayZ playerbase actually owned the game before DayZ came out. DayZ has the prerequisite of owning ArmA, which is something the majority of PC gamers don't. Why do you think BiS are absolutely bumming Rocket? Because Rocket made ArmA 2 the best selling game on Steam for almost half a year. Yes it is technically free, but at the same time it really, really isn't. I'm far from the only person to of paid £25 a few months ago to experience DayZ, and you cannot justify building a hugely appealing mod onto a niche, almost cult level game engine for the reasons stated above.

I just hope a more refined polished and evolved game comes to market that really puts WarZ to shame comes out sometime soon, perhaps the DayZ standalone will be the proper evolution with full development put into the game I think it could be huge.

I agree, DayZ standalone could be brilliant, but as I just stated, none of this is at all free, saying DayZ is a free mod is quite naive tbh.

Lots of questions here, the main one being why are people still playing War Z let alone defend it?

What else are they going to play? As stated above, the demand for this kind of game far outweighs supply. WarZ players are the kind of players that want the DayZ experience, but better, and for less. As stated above also, though, that sadly comes along with an awful company attached to it who might shaft you any second.



Fair points, but at the end of the day, dress it up however you want, but until ArmA 2 CO dropped to £11 in some places it was like this;

DayZ - £25
WarZ - £9

Like I said, dress it up however you want, it's the truth, and to say DayZ is actually better than WarZ is pretty incredible, granted it has more depth, but the fundamentals are 10x better in WarZ, as is the game engine for a concept like this.

People can play it all they want and enjoy it all they want. Some people prefer to eat in a Burger King than in a decent restaurant, that's fine, it's their choice. But they would be crazy to say their burger is of higher quality than my fillet steak.

What exactly is the fillet steak you're referring too? :confused:

WarZ feels more stable and built for purpose than DayZ by miles, and it shows. WarZ is, like I've said before; the Ferrari of the genre compared to DayZ's Toyota MR2 with a naff turbocharger glued and gaffa taped onto the engine. DayZ standalone will probably kick some serious arse, but at the moment, not only is WarZ still actually cheaper, it's a far better experience. The game world is 10x bigger in WarZ aswell, considering the fact that the DayZ maps are gigantic loads of nothing, with a few villages scattered around with a few zombies, WarZ has content everywhere.

You've gotta remember, I have ArmA II CO sitting in my Steam library which I paid £25 for, and do not own WarZ. So why would I defend WarZ (a game in which I'm never going to buy thanks to the developers) over DayZ? Because right now, this second; it's a thousand times better.

You'll most likely find me playing either DayZ standalone or Class 4 in the future, so again; this is as impartial as it gets.
 
Last edited:
You're right DayZ isnt totally free if you want to play it. But the mod maker. (Just an arma2 player) didnt know it was going to kick off like it did.

He just made a fun mod for the game. Several zombie missions exist in arma2. A lot of the hardcore milsim clans make them for halloween for a bit of a wind down and some silly fun. He decided to make a mod that added a bit of survival into it. And it went crazy.

He didnt make it for arma2 to force a huge level of sales. He made it for arma2 because A) arma2 is one of the only good games with mod support left. and B) it facilitates the requirements for a zombie survival mod closer than anything else currently available. He also clearly loves and plays arma2.

Just as an avid elderscrolls player will make an elderscrolls mod. not to boost sales. But for fun for the current game owners to play.

Mod support allows a game to last 5-10 years and still be full of fresh content.

Things like COD and BF only last a couple of years at best.

While DayZ is FAR FAR from perfect. BI and ArmA2 is the sort of company/Game that we as PC gamers should really stick behind.


We all complain about this that and another with current AAA games. Say they ruin PC gaming and screw us over etc. And when a company does exactly what we want. We dont show the support.

BI are also a TINY studio with a handful of guys too. No large budgets or any of these fancy things.

Again while arma2 is far from perfect. They gave us the tools to make it into whatever we want. ArmA2 has one of the most phenomenal mod communities going. And its kept an old game flowing with content since the day it was released.
 
You're right DayZ isnt totally free if you want to play it. But the mod maker. (Just an arma2 player) didnt know it was going to kick off like it did.

He just made a fun mod for the game. Several zombie missions exist in arma2. A lot of the hardcore milsim clans make them for halloween for a bit of a wind down and some silly fun. He decided to make a mod that added a bit of survival into it. And it went crazy.

He didnt make it for arma2 to force a huge level of sales. He made it for arma2 because A) arma2 is one of the only good games with mod support left. and B) it facilitates the requirements for a zombie survival mod closer than anything else currently available. He also clearly loves and plays arma2.

Yeah I get that, jumped the gun claiming otherwise but still, if DayZ wasn't as popular as it is, there would be no standalone and it would probably still be on version 1.2 of the Alpha or something close, BiS jumping on Rocket to support him is for the money, but at the same time, just like any decent developer they are giving their moneys worth to their fans, but it's still all about the money, which is exactly how it should be anyway. I'm just getting a little fed up of everyone claiming DayZ is this amazing free to play mod when it isn't. :p

Just as an avid elderscrolls player will make an elderscrolls mod. not to boost sales. But for fun for the current game owners to play.

Mod support allows a game to last 5-10 years and still be full of fresh content.

Things like COD and BF only last a couple of years at best.

Definitely, I recently grabbed Resident Evil 5 again just for the mods, it isn't even the kind of game you'd expect to be on a community level with the PC to get tons of great mods, but it is! :eek:

While DayZ is FAR FAR from perfect. BI and ArmA2 is the sort of company/Game that we as PC gamers should really stick behind.


We all complain about this that and another with current AAA games. Say they ruin PC gaming and screw us over etc. And when a company does exactly what we want. We dont show the support.

BI are also a TINY studio with a handful of guys too. No large budgets or any of these fancy things.

I agree with this too, hence why BiS & Rocket will most likely be getting my patronage in the future and not Hammerpoint, due to HP's ethics and practice.

Again while arma2 is far from perfect. They gave us the tools to make it into whatever we want. ArmA2 has one of the most phenomenal mod communities going. And its kept an old game flowing with content since the day it was released.

Pre-DayZ though, it was still quite cult with a small community, but I agree, they've done a fantastic job, this is pretty much the only sim shooter out there with this kind of support.
 
Ahh Im glad you agree :D I also agree DayZ is pretty terrible >.< 90% of the issues with it were solved with ACE mod YEARS AGO. Its such a step backwards trying to play DayZ lol.
 
What the?? Seriously people at Universities have made better semester projects that that 'Afternoon'. Is a development studio seriously working on that?
 
Last edited:
Back
Top Bottom