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Perfect summary, imo.
age of conan or world of warcraft?
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Perfect summary, imo.
That was the fall with Vanguard... anyone remember that 
Vanguard was supposedly going to be the WoW killer then what happened they released it far far before it was anywhere near complete it was bugged galore. Sadly that game bit the dust and hard.
I do hope this doesnt happen to AOC. Competition is a good thing and what with WAR upcoming, people who play mmo's have variety to choose from
Vanguard was supposedly going to be the WoW killer then what happened they released it far far before it was anywhere near complete it was bugged galore. Sadly that game bit the dust and hard.
I do hope this doesnt happen to AOC. Competition is a good thing and what with WAR upcoming, people who play mmo's have variety to choose from
This is a post I made earlier in one of the other AoC/WoW threads which I feel has some relevance here too:
Even tho people are generally slating AoC off left right and centre I would still prefer to pay for it in its bug-ridden state (because I have actually had very little exposure to these bugs) than play WoW in its apparent perfected form.
I hope that all the nay sayers and moaners do leave AoC and run back to WoW (interesting how the majority have played/do play WoW) because I am happy to sit back and let AoC develop into something special over time instead of listening to all the constant beration by others.
I've found it astonishing how there are individuals who have had bad experiences of AoC (which there will be of most games) and just cannot do enough to slate this game as much as possible.
If you don't like a game, don't play it - simple as. Why then, put so much effort into trying to persuade others from trying it because your enjoyment was null and void? The amount of people who have been put off by the hugely negative comments made by others is rather saddening. I believe the general consensus is that AoC is by no means a WoW beater (altho who actually claimed it would be?) but that it could be compared to being a diamond in the rough - with a lil care and attention, it could turn into something truly great.
AoC is by no means a perfect game, that however, has not stopped me from enjoying playing it (more than WoW) and I totally encourage anyone who is not sure if they will enjoy playing it but are at least tempted to to at least try it. If you find it's not the game for you then at least you can say you have tried it and made up your own mind.
We are all unique and have different tastes, some people will like AoC but not WoW and vice versa. You never know, there may even be some people who like both or dislike both - that's life!
I know that there are people on this forum that have had bad experiences with AoC and I sympathize, because they have not had the level of enjoyment that I have had whilst playing this game. But then on the other hand, I have not enjoyed WoW - yet you don't see me constantly berating it in the numerous WoW threads.
Live and let live I say, there is enough room in the world for AoC and WoW! Just let people make up their own mind... Besides, it won't be long before the AoC nay sayers jump aboard the Warhammer bandwagon and get medievel on their asses instead! Giving AoC a justifiable reprieve and time to carry on improving and evolving.
To the OP - give AoC a go and make your own mind up, it really isn't as bad as some people make out!
In my opinion.
Even tho people are generally slating AoC off left right and centre I would still prefer to pay for it in its bug-ridden state (because I have actually had very little exposure to these bugs) than play WoW in its apparent perfected form.
I hope that all the nay sayers and moaners do leave AoC and run back to WoW (interesting how the majority have played/do play WoW) because I am happy to sit back and let AoC develop into something special over time instead of listening to all the constant beration by others.
I've found it astonishing how there are individuals who have had bad experiences of AoC (which there will be of most games) and just cannot do enough to slate this game as much as possible.
If you don't like a game, don't play it - simple as. Why then, put so much effort into trying to persuade others from trying it because your enjoyment was null and void? The amount of people who have been put off by the hugely negative comments made by others is rather saddening. I believe the general consensus is that AoC is by no means a WoW beater (altho who actually claimed it would be?) but that it could be compared to being a diamond in the rough - with a lil care and attention, it could turn into something truly great.
AoC is by no means a perfect game, that however, has not stopped me from enjoying playing it (more than WoW) and I totally encourage anyone who is not sure if they will enjoy playing it but are at least tempted to to at least try it. If you find it's not the game for you then at least you can say you have tried it and made up your own mind.
We are all unique and have different tastes, some people will like AoC but not WoW and vice versa. You never know, there may even be some people who like both or dislike both - that's life!
I know that there are people on this forum that have had bad experiences with AoC and I sympathize, because they have not had the level of enjoyment that I have had whilst playing this game. But then on the other hand, I have not enjoyed WoW - yet you don't see me constantly berating it in the numerous WoW threads.
Live and let live I say, there is enough room in the world for AoC and WoW! Just let people make up their own mind... Besides, it won't be long before the AoC nay sayers jump aboard the Warhammer bandwagon and get medievel on their asses instead! Giving AoC a justifiable reprieve and time to carry on improving and evolving.
To the OP - give AoC a go and make your own mind up, it really isn't as bad as some people make out!
In my opinion.
For Age of conan fun (lmao when i saw it)
Wow vid
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/warcraft_sequel_lets_gamers_play?utm_source=embedded_video
Lmao.
For Age of conan fun (lmao when i saw it)
Lmao.
AHAHAHA
im VERY tempted to give AOC a go.AOC is fun, I can't play much due to real life but when I go on, and it works and I can get a framerate that isn't crippling, it is an utter blast 
Things are getting better, twice weekly updates and fixes, lot of the kids are leaving now too so it'll only get better I completely agree with what Alty said in the post above ^^
Things are getting better, twice weekly updates and fixes, lot of the kids are leaving now too so it'll only get better
I completely agree with what Alty said in the post above ^^
lot of the kids are leaving now too so it'll only get better
Ive really noticed in the last few days how much better the chat has become, at times it almost got as bad as wow chat <.< >.> *waits for wow 'fan boi' retaliation*
And there it was.
TBH, ill probably get bored of AoC after ive romped around on my Rhino for a while.
But thats the same as any mmo out there. LoTRO was the only one to really get me going, but i found it too hard to find groups... or at least good groups.
no one seems to have brought together everything i like in a mmo.
Maturaty
Story line
Immersive crafting
PvP - with different races to quest with
Great graphics
AoC - Just about does it with the 'culture' server but the crafting is poop.
WoW - Is just too kiddy, no story and graphics i dont like.
EQ2 - Dunno about this, it has it all but PvP seemed tacked on. Didnt interest me as much as wow did at the time so it kinda got ahead of me. The quest chains started to get on my nerves.
LoTRO - No real race PvP. I want to be an Orc!
D&D online - meh, disappointment all round
TBH, ill probably get bored of AoC after ive romped around on my Rhino for a while.
But thats the same as any mmo out there. LoTRO was the only one to really get me going, but i found it too hard to find groups... or at least good groups.
no one seems to have brought together everything i like in a mmo.
Maturaty
Story line
Immersive crafting
PvP - with different races to quest with
Great graphics
AoC - Just about does it with the 'culture' server but the crafting is poop.
WoW - Is just too kiddy, no story and graphics i dont like.
EQ2 - Dunno about this, it has it all but PvP seemed tacked on. Didnt interest me as much as wow did at the time so it kinda got ahead of me. The quest chains started to get on my nerves.
LoTRO - No real race PvP. I want to be an Orc!
D&D online - meh, disappointment all round
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And there what was? I sincerely hope you're not implying I am a "WoW fan boi" or that I am retaliating.
Take your "fan boi" attitude elsewhere, this is a (semi-)intelligent discussion forum where people post their opinions. Learn to accept others'.
I played WoW since release up until about 3-4 weeks ago because I was becoming sick and tired of luck in arena matches. For example warriors would stunlock me with mace stun procs for stupid lengths of time. Melee is dominating in that game, if you aren't melee then you are at a disadvantage.
Oh no i wouldnt do anything like that. Im so very sorry if i offended you in any way.
Chum....p
You judge people for being "fan bois" and so their opinion is pointless, yet you seem to use that brush to tar anyone who prefers one game over another with.
I am not a WoW fan boi, I am not an AoC fan boi, I just found WoW more to my tastes. I am very sorry if this upsets you.
Judge not, that you be not judged.
The only pointless opinion here is yours. You add nothing to the conversation. Apart from showing your lack of wisdom, you have not read my posts with any insight. You need a break, you have tunnel vision and you only read what you want to see.
Read my words, brother, and be free of your dependence. Be free!
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Neither game is "better", as people said they're just too different. Just watch a few vids of each game to see which of the two's gameplay appeals to you most. Both games are full of character, stunning landscapes, and each has their own individual brand of humour, but both of them in very different ways. Gameplay-wise I like the feel of Conan more, WoW just feels less immediate (might be the autoattacking, or the lack of collision-detection). Conan is unfinished though, it seriously needs more time to mature. This isn't just about quests that you can't complete cause of some bug, or the occasional mob that doesn't fight back, or the occasional crash or bad framerates in some areas: I'm talking about some quests that you can just tell were hurriedly thrown in at the last minute, some zones that are completely empty and devoid of life, presumably pending some update, and an underlying rules mechanic that needs a serious amount of fine-tuning before it can feel fair and balanced (and that's just after they fix the various skills that aren't working).
The game's development manager was recently quoted in an interview as saying that if WoW is a McDonald's burger, Conan is a good expensive steak. Now, I'm a huge fan of this game game, but even I thought that he was pretty much asking for someone to come back to him and say "you obviously like your steaks rare to the point of being undercooked then!"
That being said, I do think it's an apt comparison, as it's a game that's a lot bloodier, a lot harder to chew, but, in my opinion, ultimately more rewarding than any other MMO onthe market atm. I don't even think you should concern yourself about the fact that it's unfinished, as they're working frantically to fix it. The first 20 levels of the game are polished to such a brilliant sheen that not only will you see your reflection in it, but your reflection will jab its fingers in your eyes and decapitate you with its axe, and they've been improvign the areas after that as well. I seem to be about 10-15 levels ahead of their polishing schedule unfortunately - if I were to stop playing for 2 weeks I'd no doubt come back to a much better game quest-wise!
Anyway, my opinion is that if it's open-world exploration that you like in an MMO, WoW wins hands down. If you want raiding and "phat lewt", WoW probably wins again (although I haven't seen too many of AoC's group instances yet, and there's every possibility that the high level ones will turn out to be amazing once I get to 80) simply because AoC is not an item-centred game, so you won't get awesome bits of gear dropping from bosses to make you feel like you've really accomplished something in clearing that dungeon. If it's community I can't comment as I haven't experienced much of WoW's, but I'm on an RP-PvP server in Conan and people are surprisingly mature and friendly - even the player-killing is done in a spirit of good will
If, however, it's pvp action you want, I think in the long term AoC will be a better investment even though a lot of the endgame PvP either isn't implemented or is buggier than a beehive on Windows 95 right now. I mean, just look:
this is some random guilds fighting each other in one of the high-level areas - http://files.filefront.com/SUNDay+22062008avi/;10766788;/fileinfo.html
and this is possibly the most skilled melee player in the whole game giving a freaking masterclass in melee skills - http://files.filefront.com/Mephs+Ragni+Entourage+lavi/;10700925;/fileinfo.html
I'm sure the wow players can provide some similar videos for you to look at, then you can decide which game's type of gameplay is more up your street.
The game's development manager was recently quoted in an interview as saying that if WoW is a McDonald's burger, Conan is a good expensive steak. Now, I'm a huge fan of this game game, but even I thought that he was pretty much asking for someone to come back to him and say "you obviously like your steaks rare to the point of being undercooked then!"
That being said, I do think it's an apt comparison, as it's a game that's a lot bloodier, a lot harder to chew, but, in my opinion, ultimately more rewarding than any other MMO onthe market atm. I don't even think you should concern yourself about the fact that it's unfinished, as they're working frantically to fix it. The first 20 levels of the game are polished to such a brilliant sheen that not only will you see your reflection in it, but your reflection will jab its fingers in your eyes and decapitate you with its axe, and they've been improvign the areas after that as well. I seem to be about 10-15 levels ahead of their polishing schedule unfortunately - if I were to stop playing for 2 weeks I'd no doubt come back to a much better game quest-wise!
Anyway, my opinion is that if it's open-world exploration that you like in an MMO, WoW wins hands down. If you want raiding and "phat lewt", WoW probably wins again (although I haven't seen too many of AoC's group instances yet, and there's every possibility that the high level ones will turn out to be amazing once I get to 80) simply because AoC is not an item-centred game, so you won't get awesome bits of gear dropping from bosses to make you feel like you've really accomplished something in clearing that dungeon. If it's community I can't comment as I haven't experienced much of WoW's, but I'm on an RP-PvP server in Conan and people are surprisingly mature and friendly - even the player-killing is done in a spirit of good will
If, however, it's pvp action you want, I think in the long term AoC will be a better investment even though a lot of the endgame PvP either isn't implemented or is buggier than a beehive on Windows 95 right now. I mean, just look:
this is some random guilds fighting each other in one of the high-level areas - http://files.filefront.com/SUNDay+22062008avi/;10766788;/fileinfo.html
and this is possibly the most skilled melee player in the whole game giving a freaking masterclass in melee skills - http://files.filefront.com/Mephs+Ragni+Entourage+lavi/;10700925;/fileinfo.html
I'm sure the wow players can provide some similar videos for you to look at, then you can decide which game's type of gameplay is more up your street.
I added my opinion that I find AoC bland and tasteless. This adds to the thread as it helps the OP make a more informed decision as to which to play.
Your posts about 'fan bois' are, on the other hand, completely pointless and immature. Take them to the AoC/WoW forums. Moron.
And herein lies the fundamental problem with AoC. They've followed a popular game development method - do a single level, and do it really well, so that you've basically got a level of finished game to show publishers.
The drop in quality of just about everything when you move from Tortage to the outside world is just so stark that it's put a lot of people off. If they polish the remainder of the game to the same extent I'll be there in a flash. But it's going to take them a good six months to bring all the zones up to that level, and at that stage Warhammer will be out (and whether it's good or not, the hype machine will pull a lot players to it, just like AoC).
AoC will end up like Vanguard - a fantastically deep and finally polished game that nobody plays because it had such a crappy launch and took the best part of a year to fix.
EDIT : Oops I nearly got drawn into your style of thinking then.
The truth hurts brother. Learn to live with it better.