Ageia PhysX... PCI-e/Pci??

[pinkacidbootson]

I hope there are some Physx cards made for pci-e 1x, im sure a lot of people would be pleased by that.

 

[Tommy B]

For the love of God, I'm confused.

Can someone clear this up...


There is usually ONE PCI-Express slot (unless you have a Crossfire or SLI mobo)

There are a few 1XPCI slots (the same things from old AGP boards)

WTF are those really really small, thin slots of which there are 3 on my mobo? They are above the PCI-e slot.

 

[Cuchulain]

For the love of God, I'm confused.

Can someone clear this up...


There is usually ONE PCI-Express slot (unless you have a Crossfire or SLI mobo)

There are a few 1XPCI slots (the same things from old AGP boards)

WTF are those really really small, thin slots of which there are 3 on my mobo? They are above the PCI-e slot.

Graphics = PCI Express x 16 slot
The others = PCI Express x 1 slots

 

[Things change I've changed]

Did anyone manage to get one of these while they were for sale?

I order'd one of the OEM ones when they was *supposed* to be instock, anway I just got off the phone with them (OcUK) and apparently they are having some arriving today.

 

[BubbySoup]

Im sure some did, but if you want to know if they are any good, then they won't be able to tell you for a while as theres nothing using them.

Suppose they can say, well the fans spinning, don't konw if it works though as theres nowt for it, would'nt that be a ****** if they were sitting there with a faulty PhysX card in their machine, and no way of knowing until a few weeks time or whenever theres something that uses it.

Can just imagine it, 'right at last after 3x weeks ive got a game that i can finally try me PhysX card out on', 'I don't ******* believe it, its a duffer, and its been sitting in my comp for about 3 weeks' .

There are tech demos etc you can download to test the card itself.

 

[tripitaka]

How long until physics cards get their own forum?
That's when we'll know that they've really arrived.

 

[mc_bob]

Don't you mean PCI x1 or x4 slots? Anyone else kind of annoyed these are on their mobos with nothing really to put in them? I have 2 x1 slots and 3 normal PCI slots. Thanks a lot, MSI.

Yeah my mistake.
I can't find any cards, they're pointless.

MC_Bob

 

[paradigm]

Yeah my mistake.
I can't find any cards, they're pointless.

MC_Bob

My dual-tuner TV DVB-T card is PCIe 1x. AFAIK you can't get soundcards on PCIe because of the latency or something along those lines.

 

[Tommy B]

My dual-tuner TV DVB-T card is PCIe 1x. AFAIK you can't get soundcards on PCIe because of the latency or something along those lines.

Creative apparently did some research and concluded that the sound quality was worse when using them, and that put off all the other companies.

 

[Dutch Guy]

Creative apparently did some research and concluded that the sound quality was worse when using them, and that put off all the other companies.

Really, I thought they stopped developing it because it gave no sound performance increase and therefore wasn't economically viable (yet)

 

[Ted.B]

Two companys have announced PCIe sound cards so far, both for pro sound market.

 

[Tommy B]

Really, I thought they stopped developing it because it gave no sound performance increase and therefore wasn't economically viable (yet)

Someone told me in the Sound forum. Maybe they were wrong?

 

[Dutch Guy]

Creative apparently did some research and concluded that the sound quality was worse when using them, and that put off all the other companies.

You were right

As far as PCI Express (PCIe) is concerned, which is the next bus, what we found is that the performance of PCIe is truly bad for audio. We are seeing four times degradation on the bus for audio.

PCIe is designed for graphics and high data transfer, but audio sends very small packets and the overhead can be very big! Moving the data across PCIe is much, much higher than PCI. So what we have to do is go back to the drawing board and work on the transport part of the chip and re-design it to add more silicon to overcome some of the problems we had with PCIe. So for us to come up with a PCIe solution is going to take a while because we have to overcome the problems we're facing with that bus.

Enough OT stuff for now

 

[Tommy B]

Yeah I thought I was right