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AGP Graphics Card

If I were you I would get a 530 W job for about 50 quid, that way you can use it in your next system and if the psu isn't actually the problem it is still useful.
 
to start off with id just like to say thanks to everyone for their help as i havent in a while hehe

as for the new psu, any recommendations on manufacturer? id preferably like a fairly quiet one as well
 
It would help a bit, but you are two generations behind so it you would be better off with a new cpu/board/mem/gfx. I just threw together a very quick quote from OcUK to give a rough idea of cost.

Conroe E6300 CPU (£124)
2GB Corsair DDR2 (£158!)
Gigabyte DS3 mobo (£100)
ATI X1900 GT 256MB PCI-E (£130)
 
Duke said:
It would help a bit, but you are two generations behind so it you would be better off with a new cpu/board/mem/gfx. I just threw together a very quick quote from OcUK to give a rough idea of cost.

Conroe E6300 CPU (£124)
2GB Corsair DDR2 (£158!)
Gigabyte DS3 mobo (£100)
ATI X1900 GT 256MB PCI-E (£130)
yeah i know it would be better off but i just dont have the time/money at the moment to do so :(
 
Get clocking then!! :D Take benchmarks of your current setup, and try upping the cpu clock by 100mhz, test, etc let us know how you get on.

What cooler do you have by the way?
 
get a new agp card, either 7600gt or x1950pro to tide you over. only time worth building a new system is when native quad core cpus are reasonable in price.
 
Cyber-Mav said:
get a new agp card, either 7600gt or x1950pro to tide you over. only time worth building a new system is when native quad core cpus are reasonable in price.
that was the plan (ie in about 12 months time when i have saved a bit of dosh)

but the point of this thread was that i was just wondering if any of the offerings out there (like the new x1950 pros )would offer a significant enough improvement to upgrade my card from an x850xt on my current setup
 
x1950pro is a good step up from the x850, you get sm3.0 and more gpu power for a decent price.
but your current card is not too shabby, only thing it really lacks is sm3.0. if i were you i would hold out for the 8600gs/gt agp cards to arrive. they will provide you with lots of good gaming potential. but your gonna have to wait till around april time.

up to you really, if you have free time now and will be busy afterwards then spend the money and get x1950pro. or move on to xbox 360.

xbox360 is very wise choice, iv seen marvel ultimate alliance running on it and also on my pc and my x1900xt struggles to run the game at 1024x768 with the advanced lighting option on and max shadows options enabled. and thats with no AA. (disable those 2 options and i can run at 1600x1200 with 4xAA :confused: )
this is where the xbox 360 wins, seems to either have far more power than an average gaming pc or that future pc games will be ports of console games and suffer bad programming hence requireing silly hardware to do simple graphics.

looks like it will be consoles for the win. IF the xbox 360 had keyboard and mouse support i would go out and buy it today.
 
Cyber-Mav said:
x1950pro is a good step up from the x850, you get sm3.0 and more gpu power for a decent price.
but your current card is not too shabby, only thing it really lacks is sm3.0. if i were you i would hold out for the 8600gs/gt agp cards to arrive. they will provide you with lots of good gaming potential. but your gonna have to wait till around april time.

up to you really, if you have free time now and will be busy afterwards then spend the money and get x1950pro. or move on to xbox 360.

xbox360 is very wise choice, iv seen marvel ultimate alliance running on it and also on my pc and my x1900xt struggles to run the game at 1024x768 with the advanced lighting option on and max shadows options enabled. and thats with no AA. (disable those 2 options and i can run at 1600x1200 with 4xAA :confused: )
this is where the xbox 360 wins, seems to either have far more power than an average gaming pc or that future pc games will be ports of console games and suffer bad programming hence requireing silly hardware to do simple graphics.

looks like it will be consoles for the win. IF the xbox 360 had keyboard and mouse support i would go out and buy it today.
i hadnt even heard about the geforce 8 series coming over to agp! i will most likely wait it out a bit more then (been saying that for like 2 years now though lol). the only problem is they are probably going to cost like £300-400 arent they and that would almost buy me a new system.....

as far as consoles go, as you mentioned i would definately need a keyboard or mouse option before i ever considered going that route. atm for me pc is still by far the best place for online gaming while on voice etc, especially if you are talking about FPS (which is what i mainly play)
 
Don't upgrade your gfx card!!!

i had an xp3000 and x800xl not so long ago, i upgraded to a gainward bliss 7800gs+ 512 and tbh was dissappointed. with everything set to high @ 1280x960 on bf2 it was getting 30-40fps. when the cost of skt 939 cpu's plummeted to rock bottom i picked up an x2 4400+. fps shot up to 80-100fps. the xp3000 was bottle necking bf2 by up to 70fps!!!!
my xp was clocked up to 2.5ghz with 2 gig ram.

so from my own experience and having been in the very same boat as you i'd say don't waste your money on an agp upgrade.
wait till you can go the whole hog.

get a gigabyte G-power pro hsf and clock your old xp up, with that cooler bolted on you should easily be able to go to 1.75 vcore and around 2.5ghz or 2.4 stable.
that made a big difference in bf2.
 
MooSey-UK said:
Don't upgrade your gfx card!!!

i had an xp3000 and x800xl not so long ago, i upgraded to a gainward bliss 7800gs+ 512 and tbh was dissappointed. with everything set to high @ 1280x960 on bf2 it was getting 30-40fps. when the cost of skt 939 cpu's plummeted to rock bottom i picked up an x2 4400+. fps shot up to 80-100fps. the xp3000 was bottle necking bf2 by up to 70fps!!!!
my xp was clocked up to 2.5ghz with 2 gig ram.

so from my own experience and having been in the very same boat as you i'd say don't waste your money on an agp upgrade.
wait till you can go the whole hog.

get a gigabyte G-power pro hsf and clock your old xp up, with that cooler bolted on you should easily be able to go to 1.75 vcore and around 2.5ghz or 2.4 stable.
that made a big difference in bf2.
thanks mate - excellent post and exactly what i needed to know :)

i am half tempted to look into getting one of those asrock mobos that go on dual formats but i read somewhere that for pci-x cards they run the graphics at blow full capacity?
 
Cyber-Mav said:
asrock dual-vsta is the board to get for s939 on the cheapo
very good performance and price.
i didnt know one of those existed and i was thinking more along the lines of the socket 775 board tbh
 
775 is even cheaper. you can get a shuttle case and 775 mobo for £110 inc vat and delivery for new. all you do is add your cpu and other components and be done with a fast tiny pc.
 
Cyber-Mav said:
775 is even cheaper. you can get a shuttle case and 775 mobo for £110 inc vat and delivery for new. all you do is add your cpu and other components and be done with a fast tiny pc.
do you mean the ASROCK 775 mobo?
 
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