That’s my point, yeah. If you can download the AutoSlop app for free, or close to free, then why would you pay for anything?
AI Generated Music
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Yeah - was just me doodling inspired by the opening theme for Scarface, but it isn't a huge stretch from there to AI generated music as it stands currently and as you mentioned some people probably did and do look down on people using synths, etc.
On some level a synth is just a glorified electronic church organ, which is to say we’ve been doing this for centuries. It’s stupid to dismiss synths on that basis. The question for me is whether there’s a person or a computer at the helm.
Problem is by the time he makes a video on the issues with music AI, the AI model has often been updated to make his position redundant. He is standing against the tide.
With sufficient understanding of music and enough examples of the output generated by years of experience for the AI to learn on it can eventually extract a lot of the experience that was utilised to create it, maybe not perfectly but far more than Beato is allowing for. One thing AI does very well is reconstructing the blanks - when it has sufficient surrounding information.
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Thanks to Spotify, I've found a huge number of new artists over the last 10 years, more than I've listened to in the previous 35 years. I love new music, but I think in the last few weeks I've had 3 songs appear. One I know is AI as it's in the artist waffle, but the other 2 I can't find anything about them online at all so they seem suspect. I'd rather keep AI out of my playlist, I hope Spotify can give us that choice.
I don't mind AI generated music - some people do put quite a bit of effort into it, but I do like to see proper accreditation.
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I think most modern chart music is soulless AI generated crap.
I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with AI music - what matters really is the end product.
The two main issues really are where AI music can't generate anything properly distinct, even if influenced, from music which already exists and created by someone else and the slop where people are just production line style generating and publishing music from text input with no care.
Some of the stuff, if pretty generic, I've generated on Suno recently (v5 model) I doubt the average person on the street would know it was AI.
I mostly do it for my own amusement but make public the odd thing https://suno.com/@rroff - "So Vague" was a bit of a joke creation as we were laughing at the idea of a band called "Barely Legible" at work (it was kind of funny in the context - probably more so being bored night shift) but surprisingly throwing some rough ideas of what a song such a band would make at AI to demonstrate to my colleagues produced exactly what I imagined.
I had an existential crisis the other day as Spotify started rolling on my playlist to suggestions and started mixing in some AI tunes. Didn't have a clue Spotify does this or that they were AI, and I actually really liked one of them....
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Eventually, AI will utterly devalued everything that is digital. When it gets to the point that it's almost impossible to work out whether a piece of media was actually created by humans, or just spat out by an AI model, I don't see how media as we know it today will function.
I wonder if there will be a massive movement to disconnect from it all and go back to analog ways!
.Eventually, AI will utterly devalued everything that is digital. When it gets to the point that it's almost impossible to work out whether a piece of media was actually created by humans, or just spat out by an AI model, I don't see how media as we know it today will function.
I wonder if there will be a massive movement to disconnect from it all and go back to analog ways!
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All modern music sounds AI generated to me. It's truly terrible.
Thankfully there is lots of old music to listen to
Thankfully there is lots of old music to listen to
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I had an existential crisis the other day as Spotify started rolling on my playlist to suggestions and started mixing in some AI tunes. Didn't have a clue Spotify does this or that they were AI, and I actually really liked one of them....
Eventually, AI will utterly devalued everything that is digital. When it gets to the point that it's almost impossible to work out whether a piece of media was actually created by humans, or just spat out by an AI model, I don't see how media as we know it today will function.
I wonder if there will be a massive movement to disconnect from it all and go back to analog ways!
Spotify has been pushing back against "AI slop" where people are fire and forget factory producing AI music and bulk uploading without a care for quality, but AI generated music can be published on Spotify via DistroKid where it is a curated effort. Personally don't care how music is made but the result - as above far to much of human produced music these days is generic and lacking and I'd rather not be exposed to that or mass produced AI where it was produced without care for the end product.
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Well, yes i agree. I have a music degree and a background in music and composition, but I’m not being a snob about it...the song i liked has been added to my playlist and Ive listened to it multiple times. I have quite an eclectic taste in music: If it is good music (and by that i mean it moves me in some way), it is good music , regardless of genre or how it was made.
However, it did seriously make me think about music, human creativity and digital content in general.
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'Robots listening to robots': How AI music fraudsters are spamming sites and taking cash from real musicians
The tracks are not fraudulent, but the behaviour around them is. Someone will upload an AI track then use a bot to repeatedly listen to it to rack up royalties. Streaming services face a increasing battle to stem the flow.
I can't say i'm surprised that people will find ways to use AI to make money like this.
'Robots listening to robots': How AI music fraudsters are spamming sites and taking cash from real musicians
The tracks are not fraudulent, but the behaviour around them is. Someone will upload an AI track then use a bot to repeatedly listen to it to rack up royalties. Streaming services face a increasing battle to stem the flow.news.sky.com
I can't say i'm surprised that people will find ways to use AI to make money like this.
That kind of stuff is happening a lot sadly - same for things like YT shorts - there is a whole industry where you can buy views or listens