Air India Crash
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I recall an incident previously where dont they have a "reduced power" version of TOGA to keep noise down in built up areas, and that it was possible for the engines lose power accidentally in a specific configuration or similar.
Im guessing thats whats happened, the engines ended up having power pulled and the spool up time was simply too much to get the thrust needed before the crash.
Im guessing thats whats happened, the engines ended up having power pulled and the spool up time was simply too much to get the thrust needed before the crash.
Indeed.. including the middle east (israel just struck Iran).
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We knew people on that flight.......some we directly knew (wife and child going back to the UK).....and some we knew through other friends.
Ahmedabad has a population of around 8 to 9 million, but it feels tiny because everyone seems to know everyone.
It happened around 4 to 5km from my office over here......awful awful awful.
AI 171 is the flight I always book for my mother when I bring her over here for Diwali....Air India operate the ONLY direct Ahmedabad to London flight.......
Ahmedabad has a population of around 8 to 9 million, but it feels tiny because everyone seems to know everyone.
It happened around 4 to 5km from my office over here......awful awful awful.
AI 171 is the flight I always book for my mother when I bring her over here for Diwali....Air India operate the ONLY direct Ahmedabad to London flight.......
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I think it simply points to the pilots having a ‘WTF’ moment as they left the ground, where the engines had suddenly lost all power to the extent that the generators/hydraulic pumps shut off and caused the RAT to deploy, and at that moment raising the gear went out of their minds, as I’d imagine a flurry of warnings would cause the cockpit to light up light a Christmas tree.
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Hilarious getting bent out of shape because the government held a COBRA meeting.
They held one during the 1980 Iranian embassy siege.
And one in 2015 due to OMG national threat, the presence of migrants in and around Calais
Who remembers the COBRA meetings during COVID where Johnson often didn't bother to turn up.
The COBRA comes from that they are held in the Briefing rooms, they pull together a load of people in government and often experts in a situation.
They aren't specifically for national events but generally thats something that needs cross department resources, or may.
A whole load of Brits getting killed in a foreign land is exactly when the foreign secretary should hold a COBRA meeting, and organise and check everything that should happen across multiple gov departments does.
I mean its exactly the sort of meeting that will take place in thousands of companies across the UK today.
"X has gone wrong!!!" "ok get A, B, C and D into a meeting asap and we can work out what to do"
They held one during the 1980 Iranian embassy siege.
And one in 2015 due to OMG national threat, the presence of migrants in and around Calais
Who remembers the COBRA meetings during COVID where Johnson often didn't bother to turn up.
The COBRA comes from that they are held in the Briefing rooms, they pull together a load of people in government and often experts in a situation.
They aren't specifically for national events but generally thats something that needs cross department resources, or may.
A whole load of Brits getting killed in a foreign land is exactly when the foreign secretary should hold a COBRA meeting, and organise and check everything that should happen across multiple gov departments does.
I mean its exactly the sort of meeting that will take place in thousands of companies across the UK today.
"X has gone wrong!!!" "ok get A, B, C and D into a meeting asap and we can work out what to do"
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I hope Quartz sent a strongly worded email to the government telling them what they should and should not hold a cabinet office briefing in room A about…
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Well to be fair I would have them having it permanently booked to work out why we don't have the £140Bn* annual fishing industry he thinks we should have.
* Inflation adjusted
Well to be fair I would have them having it permanently booked to work out why we don't have the £140Bn* annual fishing industry he thinks we should have.
* Inflation adjusted
Boris gave it away, remember? And Starmer has repeated the mistake.
That's only relevant to either a wind shear escape manoeuvre or a terrain escape manoeuvre, essentially both EGPWS systems which direct a recovery if you enter wind shear or if it calculates you are about to hit terrain. In both cases you need an immediate rate of climb as soon as possible and it's been worked out that the initial (rather small) increase in drag when the gear is raised is detrimental to that. So you leave the aircraft configuration as it is (with the exception of speedbrakes) and focus on climbing away with full power.
None of which would seem to have any relevance to this case.
If you've lost power on both engines just after take-off, arguably it's better just to leave the gear down. I don't think it would come up anyway.
Edit: Just to add - and admittedly it's from the Daily Mail.
'Captain Sumeet Sabharwal, who had 8,200 hours of flying experience, desperately cried 'Mayday…no thrust, losing power, unable to lift' before the aircraft went down and hit a residential property'
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Judging by the comments on YouTube news articles I think it's safe to say that in the post Sully world most people don't realise that losing both engines on take off is effectively a death sentence.
Thank you, it's comical that a couple of people are even debating this >.>
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Sully did an amazing job and had the benefit of some altitude, some time and the Hudson - these guys unfortunately had none of those and it’s just tragic.
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I just think the likes of Lammy are damned if they do, damned if they don't
He'd probably be getting criticism from people (sometimes the same ones) if he didn't have a COBR meeting about it.
oh yeah, its just pure hate, corbyn used to get that now its starmer this starmer that or labour this labour that.
its an odd thing to complain about, cobra meeting was perfectly acceptable
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I think he's going to spend the rest of his life asking "why?" I think shaken up is an understatement - his life is probably over in many other ways
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Just ROFL, honestly get a grip
Exactly.
Problem is people post before their brain has a chance to be engaged.
First thing for him to do is take a trip to the casino and put it all on red